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Nicoco
in reply to Terence Eden • • •Maybe this is spam designed to make you (and others) leave matrix?
In XMPP public rooms we definitely had a very motivated hater spamming gore images (and worse) everywhere they could. The point was precisely to make everyone run away.
The way this crap is moderated on big platforms may be more effective, but at what cost? ("facebook moderation ptsd" on your favorite search engine, but I bet you know the story already)
Terence Eden
in reply to Nicoco • • •@nicoco no.
You don't need to be an apologist for them.
I used to be a content moderator. I know how hard it is. But Matrix outsourcing the problem to users is not the solution.
And, frankly, that sort of spam should be automatically detected without human intervention.
It isn't up to the customers of a bar to chuck out unruly patrons.
Nicoco
in reply to Terence Eden • • •I am not an apologist of Matrix in general, but content moderation in decentralised services run by volunteers is a very hard problem. Automated content inspection is near impossible with E2EE and in general frowned upon by privacy advocates (for good reasons).
Obligatory read: craphound.com/spamsolutions.tx…
That said, close your account, do what you feel is best (that goes without saying).
Terence Eden
in reply to Nicoco • • •Terence Eden
in reply to Terence Eden • • •I've just been asked by @matrix to delete this post. They had the audacity to blame *me* for giving publicity to the problems they have.
If you can't run a service safely, you shouldn't run it at all.
The Matrix.org Foundation
in reply to Terence Eden • • •to be precise, we said: you are very welcome to publicise our flaws: “Matrix needs way better antispam and moderation controls; I’m not going to use it any more” or whatever. but please do *not* repost abusive spam, spreading it even further, which does nothing other than [give the spammer the attention they want].
Meanwhile, we are working hard on anti-invitespam measures - and we apologise to those hit by the spammer.
Dylan </closingtags.com>
in reply to The Matrix.org Foundation • • •Richard Bairwell
in reply to Terence Eden • • •The Matrix.org Foundation
in reply to Richard Bairwell • • •Matrix.org Homeserver Terms and Conditions
matrix.orgerebion
in reply to Terence Eden • • •Seeing posts like this, I simply had disabled invites on my server before it could spread to me, so I've not seen anything.
I'll keep the server for now, while migrating everything to ejabberd. It's got WIP Matrix support, so if I really have to, I'll be able to join a Matrix room, but everything else will be XMPP. There IDs can be hidden in a chat, making the spread of spam much more difficult, just because IDs cannot be scraped as easily.
Really don't wanna see THAT.
erebion
in reply to erebion • • •I deeply regret having brought more than 3k users to Matrix.
This has just hindered us from adopting something better that works well. I also wanted to love Matrix and advertised it for a couple years, always thinking "Yeah, it's new, it will get better", but the issues have always stayed.
The people behind Matrix are nice and I wish them the best. Should the issue get solved in the future: I'll gladly try adopting it again. :)
The Matrix.org Foundation
in reply to erebion • • •Third party invites are shown as unsupported events
edent (GitHub)erebion
Unknown parent • • •I think we need to do something about the gap.
We're stronger together as one large community with an open protocol instead of two divided once.
Together we could take over the world!1!!1!! :p
erebion
in reply to erebion • • •Oh and the privacy features!
XMPP can hide IDs in group chats, making it really hard to scrape IDs and spam.
I wish that simple feature would come to Matrix.
And setting a nick when joining and completely hiding the global nick.
Being able to hide the profile picture in public chats and only share it with contacts.
I don't want to show my face to the whole internet, nor do I want everyone on there to be able to contact me easily.
If those improvements are made -> fanboy.
erebion
in reply to erebion • • •Please let me know whether this reply is:
(1) helpful or
(2) not helpful
Currently on a train and cannot really focus, so it's a bit stream of conciousness.
The Matrix.org Foundation
in reply to erebion • • •erebion
Unknown parent • • •Also, I agree "it sucks" is unhelpful.
But also feel like feedback is often just ignored, unfortunately. Hope the community interactions will improve, love the ejabberd community as a positive example.
My issues are mostly not even the spam (I just disabled invites), but mostly sloooow performance. Otherwise I'm fine with it all.
Sometimes Fractal neeeds 30 minutes to sync up when opening, it's written in Rust and should be fast enough.
I suspect Element would be slower.
erebion
in reply to erebion • • •The other large issue, for me personally, is lacking interop with the other open decentralised protocol XMPP.
I run Bifrost, but it seems abandoned and buggy and I will probably have to switch it off soon, as it does not work well.
There was Parsee, which was hosted on a git that's no longer in existence, but still listed on matrix.org as alpha. That looked promising.
To win me back as a fan, personally:
- it must be more performant
- it must be interoperable with XMPP
The Matrix.org Foundation
in reply to The Matrix.org Foundation • • •