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So... Has anyone on here actually talked with the people from the #SocialWebFoundation?
I can tell the #Mastodon Organization has, but #Threads is also listed there, while I don't see any other names that aren't some corporate entity. I'm all for groups that want to expand the #Fediverse, even for-profit ones, but it's a red flag when an organization that purports to be for a general movement doesn't have an open line of communication with rank-and-file server-runners and volunteers...
Edit:
I just realized that it was founded by @evan who is actually very active in mainstream Fedi, and one of the maintainers of the actual protocol. While that doesn't elaborate on actual intentions, it is good to know that at least it's someone who is directly involved, and not some random corporation. #EvanProdromou
Bisher habe ich nur Beiträge inkludiert, die 'rp24' im Text enthielten. Für diesen Post habe ich alles gezählt, was in der jeweiligen Suche auftaucht. Dadurch steigen vor allem die Zahlen von #Bluesky (+230), weil der dortige rp24-Feed mehrere #rp24 Suchbegriffe enthält. Bei #XCorp kommen ein paar (+28) false positives über Matches in Usernames dazu. #Threads ist jetzt auch dabei und überholt Bluesky knapp.
Fediverse 1728
X 1267
Threads 929
Bluesky 922
Zusammenfassung der Posts zur #rp24 über die drei Tage. Fediverse mit einem klaren Vorsprung vor #Xcorp, #Bluesky und #Threads sind quasi gleichauf. #Linkedin konnte ich nur unvollständig erfassen, weil sie Suche dort nur einen eingeschränkten Zeitraum zurückgeht (und Posts haben keinen Veröffentlichungszeitpunkt, nur einen Veröffentlichungstag). #Facebook abgeschlagen am letzten Platz. #Instagram kann ich gar nicht mehr vergleichen, weil die Suche nur noch Top-Beiträge anzeigt, nicht mehr die aktuellsten. #TikTok Suche ist ebenfalls ungeeignet, weil Hashtags nicht exakt gematcht werden und deshalb die Ergebnisse statt mit re:publica mit RetourenPrinz24 voll sind. Solltet ihr Vorschläge für andere Plattformen haben, wo öffentliche Kommunikation zur Veranstaltung stattgefunden hat, lasst es mich wissen.
Plattform | Posts im Zeitraum (posts gesamt gefunden) von wie vielen unterschiedlichen Accounts
Fediverse 1747 (2288) von 400
X Corp 1284 (1723) von 485
Bluesky 942 (1125) von 332
Threads 936 (1208) von 196
Linkedin 587 (597) von 467
Facebook 286 (481) von 151
Vielleicht schaue ich mir noch irgendwann Reposts und Engagement an.
Threads is the largest player so far to adopt #ActivityPub, and as @mike says, “The implications are huge.”
Why is Threads doing this? How is the team working with the community? How are they thinking about moderation, monetization and privacy in these early days and going forward?
In the newest episode of @dot_social, Mike digs in with @rklambo, Director of Product Management, and @pcottle, Software Engineer. Check it out in the fediverse on PeerTube or wherever you like to listen to podcasts. More details here:
about.flipboard.com/inside-fli…
#DotSocial #Podcast #Fediverse #Federation #MastodonMigration #Threads #Meta #ActivityPub #Flipboard
Threads Has Entered the Building (and the Dot Social Podcast) - Flipboard
Threads is the largest player so far to adopt ActivityPub, which is needed for the open social web to scale. Why is Threads doing this?Mia Quagliarello (Flipboard)
If you’re on mastodon.social, I would highly recommend that you switch to a different server that protects its people instead of exposing them to a well-known bad actor like Facebook/Meta via Threads.
For alternatives, see: fedipact.veganism.social
And remember that Mastodon is not the fediverse. The fediverse is much more than just Mastodon and definitely more so than mastodon.social and Mastodon gGmbH.
#mastodonSocial #mastodonGGMBH #mastodon #fediverse #threads #facebook #meta
#Fedipact - The instances blocking Zuckerberg's Threads.net
An interactive list to see which ActivityPub (Matodon, Lemmy, FireFish, etc) instances are federating with Threads.netfedipact.veganism.social
Big changes to the Oliphant blocklists, via @oliphant
oliphant.social/@oliphant/1121…
Summary:
- A revised Tier0 list (based on @Seirdy's Tier0 list, @gardenfence and the @iftas DNI list)
- Other lists going away
- git archives of blocklists from .social and other sites Oliphant used to use also going away
And interesting:
"You should still be able to use the Tier 0 Oliphant list and get a respectable list of blocks, though you'll notice certain more contentious entries like qoto and threads won't be on that list anymore"
Looks like at least one corner of the fedvierse is welcoming our new surveillance capitalism overlords!
Oliphant (@oliphant@oliphant.social)
Content warning: Big Changes to Oliphant BlocklistsOliphant Social
It looks like you can now view anyone’s Threads profile from Mastodon and Pixelfed instances that federate with them.
If you’re a Mastodon user wanting to block Threads, or a Mastodon server admin looking not only to block Threads from federating to your server but also block all inbound and outbound traffic (data scrapers, loads of traffic overwhelming small servers) from all their IP addresses, I wrote a guide that can help:
mastodon.moule.world/users/MOU…
#Threads #Fediverse #Mastodon #PixelFed
MOULE (:Lampy: Lampy out 29/3) (@MOULE@moule.world)
#MetaBlock For #Fediverse server admins: #iptables commands to block inbound (loads of #Threads users) & outbound traffic (like data mining) from Meta's IP addresses: https://pastebin.com/eB4shL1R Sources: 1. https://ipinfo.io/AS32934 2.MOULE WORLD
The free fediverses should make it easier to move between (and create) instances
Part 5 of Strategies for the Free Fediverse
privacy.thenexus.today/make-it…
There's likely to be a lot of moving between instances as people and instances sort themselves out into the free fediverses and Meta's fediverses -- and today, moving accounts on the fediverse today. There are lots of straightforward ways to improve it, many of which don't even require improvements to the software. And there are also opportunities to make creating, customizing, and connecting instances easier.
#fediverse #fedipact #threads @fediversenews
The free fediverses should make it easier to move between (and create) instances
Part 5 of Strategies for the free fediversesJon (The Nexus Of Privacy)
The free fediverses should emphasize networked communities
privacy.thenexus.today/the-fre…
Here's how @lrhodes describes the Networked Communities view:
"instances are valuable for the relations and interactions they facilitate locally AND for their ability to connect you to other parts of the network."
By contrast, @evanprodromou notes that "Big Fedi" advocates typically see instances as typically see the instance as "mostly a dumb pipe." But The Networked Communities view aligns much better with the free fediverses' values – as does the "Social Archipelago" view @noracodes sketches in The Fediverse is Already Dead. Not only that, it's good strategy!
@fediversenews #fediverse #threads #fedipact
The free fediverses should emphasize networked communities
Part 3 of Strategies for the free fediversesJon (The Nexus Of Privacy)
Strategies for the free fediverses
privacy.thenexus.today/strateg…
The fediverse is evolving into different regions
- "Meta's fediverses", federating with Meta to allow communications, potentially using services from Meta such as automated moderation or ad targeting, and potentially harvesting data on Meta's behalf.
- "free fediverses" that reject Meta – and surveillance capitalism more generally
The free fediverses have a lot of advantages over Meta and Meta's fediverses, some of which will be very hard to counter, and clearly have enough critical mass that they'll be just fine.
Here's a set of strategies for the free fediverses to provide a viable alternative to surveillance capitalism. They build on the strengths of today's fediverse at its best – including natural advantages the free fediverses have that Threads and Meta's fediverses will having a very hard time countering – but also are hopefully candid about weaknesses that need to be addressed. It's a long list, so I'll be spreading out over multiple posts; this post currently goes into detail on the first two.
- Opposition to Meta and surveillance capitalism is an appealing position. Highlight it!
- Focus on consent (including consent-based federation), privacy, and safety
- Emphasize "networked communities"
- Support concentric federations of instances and communities
- Consider "transitively defederating" Meta's fediverses (as well as defederating Threads)
- Consider working with people and instances in Meta's fediverses (and Bluesky, Dreamwidth, and other social networks) whose goals and values align with the free fediverses'
- Build a sustainable ecosystem
- Prepare for Meta's (and their allies') attempts to paint the free fediverses in a bad light
- Reduce the dependency on Mastodon
- Prioritize accessibility, which is a huge opportunity
- Commit to anti-fascist, anti-racist, anti-colonial, and pro-LGBTQIA2S+ principles, policies, practices, and norms for the free fediverses
- Organize!
#fediverse #freefediverse #threads @fediverse @fediversenews
Strategies for the free fediverses
How to leverage the free fediverses' many advantages?Jon (The Nexus Of Privacy)
The free fediverses should support concentric federations of instances
Part 4 of Strategies for the Free Fediverses
privacy.thenexus.today/the-fre…
Here's how @zkat describes caracoles: "you essentially ask to join concentric federations of instances ... with smaller caracoles able to vote to federate with entire other caracoles."
And @ophiocephalic's "fedifams" are a similar idea: "Communities could align into fedifams based on whatever conditions of identity, philosophy or interest are relevant to them. Instances allied into fedifams could share resources and mutually support each other in many way"
The idea's a natural match for community-focused, anti-surveillance capitalism free fediverses, fits in well with the Networked Communities model discussed in part 3, and helps address scalability of consent-based federation discussed in Part 2.
privacy.thenexus.today/the-fre…
#fediverse #fedipact #threads @fediversenews @fediverse
The free fediverses should support concentric federations of instances
Part 4 of Strategies for the free fediversesJon (The Nexus Of Privacy)
"... the website loads in a special browser built into the app, rather than your phone’s default browser. In 2022, privacy researcher Felix Krause found that Meta injects special “keylogging” JavaScript onto the website you’re visiting that allows the company to monitor everything you type and tap on, including passwords. Other apps including TikTok do the same thing."
What the hell?? This is so creepy.
#Meta #JavaScript #Privacy #web #SocialMedia #News #Threads
gizmodo.com/meet-link-history-…
Meet ‘Link History,’ Facebook’s New Way to Track the Websites You Visit
Facebook introduces a confusing new setting as the walls close in on Zuckerberg’s data machine.Thomas Germain (Gizmodo)
I was on @mike's Dot Social podcast to talk about Mastodon, #Threads (not the 1984 movie), and the social web. If you've got questions about any of those things, maybe we've covered them!
about.flipboard.com/inside-fli…
The State of the Federation, with Mastodon's Eugen Rochko - Flipboard
The founder and CEO of Mastodon is on a hero’s journey to provide a safer, more trustworthy and less commercial social media experience.Mia Quagliarello (Flipboard)
My #FediPact 2.0 website tool is now available for your anti-fascist viewing pleasure!
Please share this around so I can finallly go to sleep 😫. I know people wanted to see it.
Servers not listed just had no readily-available data for me to grab.
#Threads #Meta #FediPact #Zuckerberg #Mastodon #Lemmy #Firefish
#Fedipact - The instances blocking Zuckerberg's Threads.net
An interactive list to see which ActivityPub (Matodon, Lemmy, FireFish, etc) instances are federating with Threads.netfedipact.veganism.social
#meta #threads #fediverse
How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse)
How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse) écrit par Ploum, Lionel Dricot, ingénieur, écrivain de science-fiction, développeur de logiciels libres.ploum.net
IMPORTANT. Threads stated policy is to collect and exploit Fediverse user personal data without explicit consent.
Now is a very good time to review Threads Terms of Use (help.instagram.com/76998365785…) and Supplemental Privacy Policy (help.instagram.com/51523043730…).
Note just by following a Threads user or replying to a post, Meta claims they are entitled to your personal data.
And what do they say they will do with your data? Provide you with "business services (including ads)."
There's a common false dichotomy about #Threads: cut them off, or leave it to user choice.
I can't speak to other software, but Mastodon offers a third option: limiting Threads. This can be done for all users of a server.
- You can follow Threads accounts after clicking through a warning.
- You have to manually approve followers _from_ Threads.
Note, however, that boosted posts will continue to appear in your home timeline:
github.com/mastodon/mastodon/i…
Silenced users' content can appear on home timeline via boosts · Issue #26301 · mastodon/mastodon
Steps to reproduce the problem Preconditions: Have account Y status on local instance be Limited, or, account Y is on server Z which has a server-wide Limit in place on your local instance. Follow ...GitHub
"𝑱𝒂𝒎𝒂𝒊𝒔 𝒅𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒍’𝒉𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒊𝒓𝒆 𝒅𝒆𝒔 𝒓𝒆́𝒔𝒆𝒂𝒖𝒙 𝒔𝒐𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒖𝒙, 𝒖𝒏 𝒓𝒆́𝒔𝒆𝒂𝒖 𝒔𝒐𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒍 𝒏’𝒂 𝒂𝒔𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒆́ 𝒂𝒖𝒕𝒂𝒏𝒕 𝒅𝒆 𝒅𝒐𝒏𝒏𝒆́𝒆𝒔 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒏𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒔."
"Vous allez voir vos données personnelles aspirées et 𝐣𝐚𝐦𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐝𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐥’𝐡𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐬 𝐫𝐞́𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐮𝐱 𝐬𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐮𝐱, 𝐮𝐧 𝐫𝐞́𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐮 𝐬𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐧’𝐚 𝐚𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐞́ 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐝𝐞 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞́𝐞𝐬 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐞𝐭 𝐧𝐞 𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐚 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐜𝐫𝐨𝐢𝐬𝐞́𝐞𝐬 avec les autres données personnelles des autres réseaux sociaux de #META qu’avec #Threads aujourd’hui", explique toujours Xavier Degraux."
Mais à quoi d'autre pouvait-on s'attendre ?
rtbf.be/article/threads-le-res…
Threads : 'le réseau social qui siphonne le plus vos données' est disponible en Europe
Un nouveau réseau social est disponible en Belgique depuis ce jeudi 13 décembre. Il s’appelle Threads et est le petit...Maïté Warland, édité par Miguel Allo (RTBF.be)
How to block #threads in #friendica
- sarch for
@mosseri@www.threads.net
via the search field - click on name to open profile
- switch to
Conversations
- click
…
to open the more menu - select
Ignore threads.net server
Enjoy your Fediverse life without #SurveillanceCapitalism.
Sociální síť #Threads byla spuštěna v EU
👉 infoek.cz/socialni-sit-threads…
Sociální síť Threads byla spuštěna v EU
Společnost Meta před nějakou dobou spustila sociální síť Threads, která má konkurovat sociální síti X (kdysi TAdolf Pupík (Infoek.cz)
The recent excitement surrounding Thread's arrival on the Fediverse is concerning. To understand why this is not a good idea, consider their economic interest in harvesting data, their poor moderation, and their manipulations. Nothing good can come from their federation. Don't roll out the red carpet for them.
#Threads #Mastodon #Krita #MastoArt #Meta
Am collecting Mastodon server software feature requests - specifically for moderation enhancement that might be helpful as #Threads federates in.
Looking for those that can be doable inside a month or two timeframe, and that don't need #ActivtyPub spec to change first. (Which takes time)
See what you think of this list: and add any others you think fit to me in the comments.
docs.google.com/document/d/1bz…
Features that might assist when Threads federates in:
Features that might assist when Threads federates in to improve the whole Fediverse security - and that would be very timely and if assistance to those servers Federating Threads:Be implemented within the 2 to 3-month time frame: Significantly and…Google Docs
In the many discussions about #threads promise to add #activitypub support, regulations such as the #DMA and the #DSA, as well as the Canadian Online News Act have come up.
In this piece I dive deep into the specific articles of the Acts to see if they might impact Meta's decision making.
Read it at
fediversereport.com/making-sen…
Making sense of Threads and regulation
The launch of Threads, with its promise of adding ActivityPub support in the future, is hotly debated.fediversereport.com
This from @pluralistic - on #Threads: why we need to abolish mark zuckerberg
doctorow.medium.com/let-the-pl…
Let the Platforms Burn - Cory Doctorow - Medium
California needs to burn. For millennia, First Nations people oversaw controlled burns in the forests they lived, played and worked in. These burns cleared out underbrush, saw off sick trees, and…Cory Doctorow (Medium)
Oh my God. PLEASE do not get on Meta's new competitor for Twitter.
It harvests mucho data including our health data.
You cannot opt out.
#Meta has already taken info from a Facebook Messenger chat about seeking #abortion in a hostile state, and turned it over for prosecution.
If you're #trans or might ever need to end a pregnancy PLEASE do not use #Threads.
Boost this. Protect your damn friends.
Edit to add documentation: theverge.com/2022/8/10/2329950…
Facebook turns over mother and daughter’s chat history to police resulting in abortion charges
Police in Nebraska have charged a teenager and her mother with a series of felonies and misdemeanors after Facebook gave up the pair’s private chat history in response to a search warrant.James Vincent (The Verge)
This is a warning about Meta and Threads.
Please boost this here and outside of Mastodon so that pregnant people in the United States are informed that using Meta/Threads is dangerous.
I'm unlikely to get pregnant but I have ZERO presence on Meta/Facebook/Instagram/Threads as a matter of principle.
#abortionrights #pregnant #threads
Threads gets a failing grade from advocates on accessible design
Users question Threads' lack of basic accessibility features.Chase DiBenedetto (Mashable)