@arale_xan that's fine ๐ I'm an #XMPP person myself but I've also been following what Delta Chat has been doing. It's cool that both use #WebXDC for "apps" (right?) because that's one less level of fragmentation for the messaging ecosystem
(I saw you mention it in light of Signal's new "polls" feature, although I knew it was happening before as well. I'm just waiting for a few more XMPP clients to pick it up and add support ๐ )
Today, we were nicely surprised by @gianmarcogg03 with a new comprehensive (italian) #deltachat introduction video, going through initial setup, groups and chatting, second device setup, #webxdc apps, bots, calls and playing Quake -- all the nice things you can do these days :)
mastodon.uno/@gianmarcogg03/11โฆ
containing peertube, odysee and youtube links (latter provides English subtitles)
Fun fact: devs noticed some tiny but embarrassing glitches in the UI which are now getting fixed as we speak :)
Ho fatto un tutorial su @delta@chaos.social, un sistema di messaggistica istantanea libero e privato basato sulle e-mail, ma con un'esperienza utente molto simile a WhatsApp, se non migliore. :peertube: PeerTube: https://videos.gianmarco.Mastodon Uno Social - Italia
Not taking Venture Capital money means:
- No pressure to maximize monetization of usage (for every million of VC funding you need to find ~100+ Million in value later).
- No prioritization of growing fast with PR campaigns that promise the moon and stumble on the ground
- No billionaire who ultimately profits
Instead, we seek public funding and private contributions for #chatmail #deltachat and #webxdc developments.
Thanks to everyone who is helping and already test-driving things :)
Hello everyone!
I want to order some stickers. Do you know a website which has high resolution pictures, or svgs?
I want pictures for #FreeBSD, #DeltaChat, #WebXDC, #OpenVoiceOS, #Alpine, #Emacs, #CommonLisp, #SLIME and #Luanti(#Minetest).
The website I want to order from already has got stickers for other things I want.
Boosts appreciated.
#FOSS #sticker #stickers #BSD #opensource
Comparing #XMPP against #email protocols is too limited. What sets #deltachat apart is *vertical integration* and being driven by UI/UX considerations. Cross-platform Apps and Bots use the Rust core library which connects with #chatmail relays and classic email servers based on a higher level API -- abstracting over SMTP, MIME, #OpenPGP etc. See chatmail.at
#webxdc apps in turn use an even higher level stable API abstracting over email/xmpp/... see webxdc.org/docs/
Chatmail provides FOSS infrastructure for interoperable, secure, speedy and reliable end-to-end encrypted messaging. Check out clients as Arcane Chat, Bots or Delta Chat today!chatmail.at
1 cent per five years .... is the current marginal hosting cost for a #chatmail address, with which #deltachat apps facilitate world-wide private messaging including interactive #webxdc apps that run end-to-end encrypted in any chat group.
<1 Million EUR per year is the estimated marginal hosting costs for 350 Million EU citizens. Such scaling requires, however, research and development, including careful UX and #cryptography work. Related writing from @gordon
newsletter.squishy.computer/p/โฆ
Protocols are to institutions as packet switching is to circuit switchingGordon Brander (Squishy Computer)
The trajectory of E2E-encryption is about de-platforming: There shall be no central machines that can control the edges/peers, and the social groups and virtual centers they freely form.
Our #deltachat R&D around #chatmail relays and #webxdc apps all aim to realize such a "zero-platforms" fully E2E-encrypted interaction model. However, this is *not* just about cryptographic cleverness. Rather it is about usable anti-authoritarian designs, as explicitly stated in January delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdโฆ
How can we evolve and deploy web apps without allowing developers or operators to become a โbillionaire in the middleโ? There are many ways to try to address this challenge and some involve the tec...delta.chat
Dear fans of messenger comparison sports,
How does it factor in that on #deltachat there are many apps that can be used in a chat without requiring a login or even a privacy policy ... And the apps all work like cryptpad but automatically and without requiring any server side hosting?
Editing documents and checklists and calendars are all safely end-to-end encrypted without a server and anyone can write new #webxdc apps permission free.
Which other cross-platform messenger offers this?
working on webxdc support in #deltatauri
Just finished implementing all the webxdc.js apis, the next steps are about hardening the sandboxing in preparation for the security audit together with @WofWca
#deltachat_desktop #tauri #webxdc
DeltaTouch 1.12.0 is out, highlights:
๐น Sync deletion of messages and chats across devices
๐ธ Page sized text editor for longer messages
๐น Webxdc: Notifications (and more)
๐ธ Improved integration into UT (ContentHub import/share)
Also included: Preparation for the long-awaited feature teased by @delta ๐
chaos.social/@delta/1141265297โฆ
Full changelog: codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/โฆ
Webxdc support in DeltaTouch is generously funded by @nlnet / @NGIZero, thanks!
#DeltaTouch #DeltaChat #Webxdc #UbuntuTouch
Attached: 1 image Release cycle completed. Please update so we can initiate the next release round with a long awaited feature ;) Generally delta apps are compatible to all currently released apps and because 15+ app stores come with all kinds of โฆchaos.social
With #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc developments we aim to instigate a new modern foundation for secure E-Mail and a resilient Web without platforms. We are building a kind of #minecraft system for modern decentralized messaging.
But who are we building it for?
For all who need reliable trustable means of modern private communication.
While our work needs hackers and experts it's not designed for them. @tante raises interesting and important related thoughts tante.cc/2025/03/03/who-is-freโฆ
For a while I have been arguing that maybe there are some issues with the whole โOpen*โ movements, their founding myths and ideologies (see for example my talk at Fluconf). This criticism comes from a place of love.tante (Smashing Frames)
Woah! You can now run 32bit operating systems (alpine, ReactOS, ...) via the new v86emu #webxdc app available at webxdc.org/apps/#mightyshadow7โฆ
Ethernet networking uses "webxdc realtime API" implemented via @n0iroh gossip channels.
Basically VMs are wired to an Ethernet that is constrained to chat members only and uses forward-secret encryption with #p2p connections. Result: Telnet and netcat are similarly secure as signal but with Peer-to-peer networking :)
Despite not having a lot of money we are yearly subscribed to give 300eur to the #foss #forgejo platform of @Codeberg who are currently suffering sustained network and abuse attacks social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg/1โฆ
Some of our #webxdc developments takes place on Codeberg. Thanks for persevering! #hugops
We are currently suffering from a network-level DDoS attack. Or maybe just a single actor. Anyway, our downlink is jammed.social.anoxinon.de - Mastodon
Our friends at @delta are continuing to make #WebXDC an amazing platform: delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdโฆ
The realtime #WebXDC APIs are built on top of #iroh #p2p connections in #DeltaChat. Glad to be playing a part in this!
How can we evolve and deploy web apps without allowing developers or operators to become a โbillionaire in the middleโ? There are many ways to try to address this challenge and some involve the tec...delta.chat
This week in #FDroid (TWIF) is live:
- F-Droid Client & Basic 1.22.0 are out (dare to update!)
- #webxdc is spreading its tentacles
- #dolphinemulator has a huge update
- #newpipe brings one fix, one still missing
- Catshare unifies device-to-device sharing
All these and news about 154 more apps at f-droid.org/2025/01/30/twif.htโฆ
This Week in F-DroidTWIF curated on Thursday, 30 Jan 2025, Week 5F-Droid coreF-Droid and F-Droid Basic were updated to 1.22.0 stable, but not yet โsuggestedโ...f-droid.org
How can we evolve and deploy web apps without allowing developers or operators to become a โbillionaire in the middleโ? There are many ways to try to address this challenge and some involve the tec...delta.chat
The time has come for a new #deltachat_desktop Test Release: 1.51.0 !
Besides many bug fixes we added a New App Picker ๐ which allows to browse and attach #webxdc apps directly from attachment menu.
Help us find the most
annoying bugs so we can make sure this update is ready to be released on
the website and in stores:
support.delta.chat/t/help-testโฆ
The time has come for a new Desktop Release! ๐ Help us find the most annoying bugs so we can make sure this update is ready to be released on the website and in stores.Delta.Chat
Upcoming events:
We'll give two talks at #FOSSDEM about #chatmail and #deltachat in the modern email devroom, on Saturday late afternoon: fosdem.org/2025/schedule/trackโฆ
The friday before, we'll probably also appear and talk about about #webxdc at the #Matrix barcamp.
Sunday morning, our friends from @n0iroh namely @flub, will give a talk about the P2P-iroh network architecture fosdem.org/2025/schedule/eventโฆ
Otherwise, you'll find us mostly around #OFFDEM for chatting and more ad-hoc sessions.
Two new #webxdc apps: a one-dimensional pacman and shopping list -- already used by many families along with "calendar" and "checklist" for daily organization. All apps are discoverable on Android via "attach/app" or in the web via webxdc.org/apps ...
With webxdc apps you'll never have to sign-up to platforms again and if you are fed up with Delta Chat, you can use the same apps with Cheogram and Monocles (XMPP messengers).
Forks welcome: apps come with source and a repo link :)
DeltaTouch 1.10.0 is out, main features:
๐น Realtime support for in-chat (Webxdc) apps, see delta.chat/en/2024-11-20-webxdโฆ for more info.
๐ธ Improved HTML message view.
๐น On UT 16.04 (xenial), DeltaTouch will check for updated versions.
UT Xenial users: Download and install the click package from codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/โฆ
Full changelog: codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/โฆ
Webxdc support in DeltaTouch is generously funded by @nlnet / @NGIZero, thanks!
#DeltaTouch #DeltaChat #Webxdc
Messaging app for Ubuntu Touch, powered by deltachat-core. Fediverse: @deltatouch@social.tchncs.deCodeberg.org
There are sometimes discussions about an end-to-end encrypted private social media e-mail chat network ๐คฏ Basically you could follow delta chat profiles and subscribe and probably react to their encrypted broadcasts ....
This and many other discussions are the "humus" on which #deltachat evolves and, for example, became a super-app: Android 1.50.3 spearheads direct #webxdc app picking via the "attach" chat action. Actually #cheogram and #monocles, both #xmpp messengers, released this first!
Those of you who have to work through Google, Apple and other store's compliance, we feel you! Maintaining around 16+ target distribution sites for cross platform apps takes a constant toll on us.
One of the giant features of #webxdc app developments is precisely that no store is needed. You can just write an index.html, a .js file and pack into a zip file and everyone can use this as an app in their chats, no store needed for permission and distribution.
Are you interested in enshittification-resistant application development?
After almost two years of collaboration with the wonderful @n0iroh team, we are happy to announce that #deltachat 1.48 apps on all platforms contain top-notch Peer-to-Peer networking support, including hole-punching and forward-secret end-to-end encryption. It is exposed through the new #webxdc realtime APIs and there are some nice initial showcase apps ๐
delta.chat/en/2024-11-20-webxdโฆ
Are you interested in enshittification-resistant application development? After almost two years of collaboration with the wonderful Iroh team, and years of discussions with numerous experts in the...delta.chat
Preventing enshittificatiom with the "Ulysses pact" from @pluralistic pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/ulyโฆ
We consider our efforts aligned: #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc implement "right to exit" on all levels of our decentralized messaging project.
- deploy your own servers permission free and interoperable with all e-mail servers ("federation mast")
- all apps and libraries and server components are 100% Foss
- interactive chat-shared web-apps can be used in other messengers
DeltaTouch 1.8.0 is out ๐
๐น Most Webxdc apps should work now. See the wiki at codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/โฆ for more details.
๐ธ VCard support
๐น UI/UX improvements and bugfixes
Full changelog: codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/โฆ
โผ๏ธ UT 16.04 (xenial) users: Upload to the OpenStore was not successfull (under investigation). Manual upgrade is possible with the package from here: codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/โฆ
Webxdc support in DeltaTouch is generously funded by @nlnet / @NGIZero, thanks!
#DeltaTouch #DeltaChat #Webxdc
Messaging app for Ubuntu Touch, powered by deltachat-core. Fediverse: @deltatouch@social.tchncs.deCodeberg.org
youtube.com/watch?v=RwAt36Xe3Uโฆ
If you wonder what iroh is. #deltachat uses it for second device setup and soon also for realtime #p2p connections in #webxdc
All these papers we've talking about? We put that research into open practice with https://iroh.computer.Come hang! https://iroh.computer/discordYouTube
Basic Webxdc support is almost there. If you're on Ubuntu Touch 20.04 (Focal), Mobian or Droidian, check out a pre-release: codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/โฆ
Feedback welcome 
More details in the wiki: codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/โฆ
This pre-release cannot be installed on UT 16.04 (Xenial), but in the final release, Xenial will be supported.
#DeltaTouch #Webxdc #DeltaChat #UbuntuTouch
Messaging app for Ubuntu Touch, powered by deltachat-core. Fediverse: @deltatouch@social.tchncs.deCodeberg.org
monocles chat 1.7.9.3 just arrived on the Playstore with awesome updates and on a great new level:
play.google.com/store/apps/detโฆ
* Improve restore Backup
* No swiping anymore for commands and webxdc viewpager fixes several webxdc problems
* Initial stickers picker
* Bigger stickers
* Fix flashing emoji picker
* Fix commands view
And many more
Try it out with a WebXDC app of your choice:
webxdc.org/apps/
#monocleschat #monocles #chat #messenger #privacy #xmpp #webxdc
monocles chat - The secure and ethical chat clientplay.google.com
Reclaiming Peer-to-Peer Web technology with #webxdc out of the ashes of "Web3": our 2024 opening post on the topic :) delta.chat/en/2024-02-15-webxdโฆ
Psst: we are looking for more folks experienced with Web app development with a knack for P2P technology .... #deltachat
While blockchain projects hailed โdecentralizationโ and โWeb3โ as a paradigm change, expending billions of dollars and development hours in the last decade, they failed to create even a baseline sp...delta.chat
