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Our friends at @delta are continuing to make #WebXDC an amazing platform: delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxd…

The realtime #WebXDC APIs are built on top of #iroh #p2p connections in #DeltaChat. Glad to be playing a part in this!


#golem offeriert ein Seminar, durch sichere #Webentwicklung den Schutz vor #Cyberangriffen zu erhöhen.

Schon erledigt: Mit #webxdc können schnell und einfach #Webanwendungen entwickelt werden, solide Kenntnisse in #Javascript voraus gesetzt.

Zur Zeit sind diese Anwendungen über #deltachat #monocleschat und #cheogramm verbreitet, bis ein schlauer Mensch ein Tool entwickelt, sie auch als standalone-app oder über http zu nutzen.

Nur warum? Wir "brauchen" doch eh alle was zum schnattern. Warum also nicht eine der drei Apps?

#DeltaChat läuft übrigens überall, bald auch im #Browser.

Auch erledigt. ✔️



anyone interested in helping out with maintaining the message parser for #deltachat desktop?

It's #test_driven_development like a #coding_puzzle, written in #rust :rust_ferris: with the #nom parser combinator library.

Repo: github.com/deltachat/message-p…

We have some bugs that I currently don't have the capacity to fix.


Was looking at @delta and I'm not quite grasping how it uses email as the transport mechanism for their chat client.

Hoping they can explain it to me like I'm 3.

#deltachat


Rekindled my interest in @delta
Found one of its developers, the @treefit only to find this gem in his bio

> dislike coding in java.

😭

Also, #DeltaChat improved sooo much over years, it is awesome.


Did you know that you can add and use "ephemeral profiles" where all messages get deleted after a set time? The "auto-delete from device" will keep your profile clean. It's a one sided ephemerality that you decide about, not your chat partners. Good for coordinating things without digital traces and where only "the current day" or "week" is important but not all the past history. Saved messages stay, though, until you explicitely delete them. #ephemeral #deltachat




btw, I am also in the process of publishing #ArcaneChat in Google Play, and setup a website for it at arcanechat.me

(for the people that don't have #fdroid since otherwise it also increases the obstacles in migrating, and ofc it is fully compatible with #DeltaChat so it is fine if some people use Delta Chat and others ArcaneChat

@thekitmalone @devSJR


Since DeltaChat was not mentioned in the comments it looks like, I'll write about it because I believe it has some interesting pros and it deserves imho more exposure to anyone reading this and didn't know about it yet. Also available on F-Droid. delta.chat/en/ And a soft-fork by iirc one of the DeltaChat developers is also available on F-Droid called ArcaneChat. #deltachat @delta


A main technical and economic difference to #matrix servers/clients:
The family of #deltachat apps uses #chatmail servers as ephemeral message transports that know nothing and forget everything: Servers don't store group metadata or cryptographic identities and delete messages after download by default. In effect, a 30EUR/month #chatmail server with 10K's of active users hums along with 2% IO and CPU pressure, 1GB RAM and negligible disk usage. No Pro-version or Kubernetes needed to scale ;)


Note to my-self and other people like me:
Read the #deltachat help at delta.chat/en/help it's all perfectly explained there in easy to follow language. It's even translated to various different languages already.
The number one answer for me is that there are #deltachat specific so called #chatmail servers suitable for anonymous instant messaging over email.
So eventhough I like to self host my emails, I think I'll go with existing #chatmail server at least initially.


@WofWca So I have finally updated to the latest and greatest #deltachat desktop. And I must say I am really impressed.
Both lists, list of conversations and list of messages are now keyboard navigable.
The hint for the screen reader users is that not all of the screen readers may switch into focus mode automatically so once you do this manually you can enjoy the user experience the way it has been designed.
Also there are nice keyboard shortcuts e.g. ctrl+n for jumping into the input box, ctrl+k for search and more.
Now I do really need to explore more i.e. what about the encryption. Can I use my existing GPG key or add a subkey or is that handled transparently on the background? I need to figure out if I should create new email for chatting or use my primary email.
Still from the accessibility point of view we are really getting something usefull I think.


Much of what is commonly said about #email and #openpgp is wrong. It can very well be fast and secure and that's a claim backed by working code and deployments and audits (#chatmail servers and the #deltachat family of apps). There is no both-sides-have-opinions game to be played here. Internet-scale messaging alternatives are arguably either centralized or brittle. There is however much room for further improvements including deep changes in how we commonly understand email today. Stay tuned :)


The time has come for a new #deltachat_desktop Test Release: 1.51.0 !

Besides many bug fixes we added a New App Picker 🚀 which allows to browse and attach #webxdc apps directly from attachment menu.

Help us find the most
annoying bugs so we can make sure this update is ready to be released on
the website and in stores:

support.delta.chat/t/help-test…

#deltachat


Security release: DeltaTouch 1.10.2 fixes an issue in versions 1.8.0 to 1.10.1. Specially crafted Webxdc apps are able to create and overwrite files with user privileges outside of their sandbox.

#DeltaTouch #DeltaChat #Webxdc


Upcoming events:

We'll give two talks at #FOSSDEM about #chatmail and #deltachat in the modern email devroom, on Saturday late afternoon: fosdem.org/2025/schedule/track…

The friday before, we'll probably also appear and talk about about #webxdc at the #Matrix barcamp.

Sunday morning, our friends from @n0iroh namely @flub, will give a talk about the P2P-iroh network architecture fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event…

Otherwise, you'll find us mostly around #OFFDEM for chatting and more ad-hoc sessions.


#webxdc apps are back to #iOS homescreen: as the old pwa-hack stopped working, we this time get all-in and created a nice widget - 💄 - where you cannot only place apps, but also any chat! and when going multi-profile, even from any profile #deltachat


Code for #deltatauri is now public!

For now it contains only the most basic functionality - so more for the fellow developers to try out or/and review my code 😉. That being said, it is already surprisingly usable.

github.com/deltachat/deltachat…

Thanks to #nlnet & #ngi0_entrust for funding this project: nlnet.nl/project/DeltaTauri/.

#deltachat #deltachat_desktop #tauri



Dear friends, #screenreader users, #blind users and #accessibility professionals in particular.
Are you using chat over traditional email as provided by #DeltaChat / #DeltaLab / #ArcaneChat?
I like it uses traditional email infrastructure, is federated, supports end to end encryption, rich content including audio / voice messages. I have even recognized @adb has implemented screen reader accessibility specific features into the android app.
However I have quickly tried electron based app on linux with orca screen reader, exchanged a few messages back and fort between two of my personal accounts using the DeltaChat app and thunderbird and I haven't found the user experience verry appealing. I can't understand how to effectivelly navigate in the list of conversations and list of messages.
Therefore I would be interested to hear a few comments from people knowing this platform better. How accessible is it on different platforms?
On the desktop is the electron based app a prefered choice?
Also some other questions. For the best experience, do I need a new email address or can I use my existing self-hosted one I have already configured in thunderbird?
Ffeel free to point me to a FAQ, some up to date introductory documentation if you think my questions don't make much sense please.


Hello folks I need your help, after a lot of efforts, I am on the final steps of making #ArcaneChat available in #GooglePlay

now they ask to create a "closed testing release" where only some invited testers via their google account email address can participate and install the app before they allow a public release

please write to me in private sending me your google account's email address (gmail I guess) to join as beta-tester, thanks a lot in advance! ♥️🙏

#DeltaChat #decentralization


It is popular to criticise surveillance/capitalism and to want/work towards a decentralized, secure and diverse communication and media landscape. However, there are real devices, networks, states and stores to navigate, inducing technical and usable-security challenges. #deltachat dev efforts are following a "speculative realism" instead of an idealist approach. We care about cooperative user testing, maintenability and development. We btw moved to #rustlang in 2019 ... when it wasn't cool :)


DeltaTouch 1.10.0 is out, main features:

🔹 Realtime support for in-chat (Webxdc) apps, see delta.chat/en/2024-11-20-webxd… for more info.
🔸 Improved HTML message view.
🔹 On UT 16.04 (xenial), DeltaTouch will check for updated versions.

UT Xenial users: Download and install the click package from codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/…

Full changelog: codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/…

Webxdc support in DeltaTouch is generously funded by @nlnet / @NGIZero, thanks!

#DeltaTouch #DeltaChat #Webxdc


There are sometimes discussions about an end-to-end encrypted private social media e-mail chat network 🤯 Basically you could follow delta chat profiles and subscribe and probably react to their encrypted broadcasts ....

This and many other discussions are the "humus" on which #deltachat evolves and, for example, became a super-app: Android 1.50.3 spearheads direct #webxdc app picking via the "attach" chat action. Actually #cheogram and #monocles, both #xmpp messengers, released this first!




in the next #ArcaneChat release: new option to control behavior of notifications of reactions and replies to your messages as well as the new mini-apps notifications in muted chats

don't lose important replies or reactions to your messages while keeping all the uninteresting chat flood/noise away 😌

#DeltaChat #email #decentralization #e2ee #messenger #chat #im



Are you interested in enshittification-resistant application development?

After almost two years of collaboration with the wonderful @n0iroh team, we are happy to announce that #deltachat 1.48 apps on all platforms contain top-notch Peer-to-Peer networking support, including hole-punching and forward-secret end-to-end encryption. It is exposed through the new #webxdc realtime APIs and there are some nice initial showcase apps 🎉

delta.chat/en/2024-11-20-webxd…


this is #deltacat watching the ongoing 1.48 #deltachat releases carefully - thanks to @adbenitez and automated store watching, this is much less stressing, just right for a cat relaxing ~#caturday


Preventing enshittificatiom with the "Ulysses pact" from @pluralistic pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/uly…

We consider our efforts aligned: #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc implement "right to exit" on all levels of our decentralized messaging project.

- deploy your own servers permission free and interoperable with all e-mail servers ("federation mast")
- all apps and libraries and server components are 100% Foss
- interactive chat-shared web-apps can be used in other messengers

#righttoexit


DeltaTouch 1.8.0 is out 🎉

🔹 Most Webxdc apps should work now. See the wiki at codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/… for more details.
🔸 VCard support
🔹 UI/UX improvements and bugfixes

Full changelog: codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/…

‼️ UT 16.04 (xenial) users: Upload to the OpenStore was not successfull (under investigation). Manual upgrade is possible with the package from here: codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/…

Webxdc support in DeltaTouch is generously funded by @nlnet / @NGIZero, thanks!

#DeltaTouch #DeltaChat #Webxdc


you could be recommending #DeltaChat that is an #e2ee #email client with an UI that looks like #WhatsApp, you could even provide it to your users as a chatting #decentralized solution using your email server, which fits with your business, but instead you prefer to recommend centralized phone-number based apps like #Signal 😭