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Can anymany tell me how I'm "supposed" to use end-to-end encryption with XMPP?

As far as I can tell there are three totally different ways to do E2EE:

a)OTR : "[xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0364.h…](Not intended to be a current standard), or technical specification, as better (albeit, newer and less well tested) methods of end-to-end encryption exist for XMPP. "

b)OpenPGP: There are at least two different XEPs about it. XEP-0027 is obsolete, while XEP-0373 is "experimental" but hasn't been updated in almost three years.

c)OMEMO: "Experimental" and hasn't been updated in over two years.

Is there a way to do E2EE in XMPP which is neither deprecated nor experimental? What's the "Current stable" way to do it?

#XMPP #E2EE #EndToEndEncryption #OMEMO #OpenPGP #OTR


Just a heads-up that #Snikket #Android has been pulled by #Google from the store. We'll work on restoring it once we figure out their (as usual) nonsensical complaints. Apologies to everyone affected. Please look at #FDroid and free yourself.

Today's excuse for delisting yet another #XMPP app?

"Your app is uploading users' Image information without posting a privacy policy link or text within the Play Distributed App."

Funny. What's this then?? 👀


‼️ Comunità XMPP:
📢 Annuncio: Eventi mensili in italiano sulla messaggistica XMPP! 🇮🇹
📆 Quando? Oggi 12 Aprile alle 18:00
🌐 Dove? In diretta su video.xmpp-it.net/c/happyhour con chat (XMPP naturalmente) per intervenire
✍️ Iscriviti su Mobilizon - mobilizon.it/events/5afc6dee-f…
🌟 Unisciti a noi per partecipare alle discussioni, e incontrare altri appassionati di XMPP. 🚀

XMPP Italian happy hour
@nicfab
@mario
@darhma
@xmpp
#XMPP #standards #chat #jabber #federation #interoperability


Monocles, je asi zatím nejlepší #XMPP aplikace pro Android.
Jen těch uživatelů nás moc není 😃😃
codeberg.org/monocles/monocles…
#xmpp


:ynh: :jabberxmpp:

#YunoHost devs are testing #Prosody as #xmpp #jabber replacement for metronome to get better integration with the system and better compliance with jabber standards. Also new default features as A/V calls.

It's on early development, without ETA!!

great news IMO 👌

thank you 🙏 🧙


First blog post about the work I've done so far on the #moxxy UI! I'd like to do one every month if possible, like Thunderbird does with K-9 Mail. Please feel free to send me feedback! #xmpp

ailyaut.robotfumeur.fr/blog/20…


The #XMPP Newsletter for March 2024 is out!

It's the 50th publication of the XMPP Newsletter! Let's #celebrate and say thanks to all the contributors & readers! Join the community effort!

xmpp.org/2024/04/the-xmpp-news…

Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕

#jabber #decentralization #federation #chat


I don’t use the tablet UI in #Conversations_im. To be honest I hardly think about the fact that Conversations even has one.
However if you are using Conversations on a tablet and have suggestions for low hanging fruit / quality of life improvements I’m happy to implement them.
Recently someone suggested using the chat title as the activity title. (Apparently the highlighted chat is not enough of an indication of what chat you are currently in.)

#XMPP #android


Our iOS app got banned from the Chinese appstore because it is able to influence public opinion or is "Capable of Social Mobilization".

See our blog post for details: monal-im.org/post/00010-ios-ba…

#xmpp #ios #china


Gerade gesehen:
Die #XMPP App #monocleschat ist über das Osterwochenende im Play Store zum reduzierten Preis von 0,99€ (anstatt 3,99€) erhältlich.

URL: play.google.com/store/apps/det…

Zur Vollständigkeit: Bei #fdroid und #codeberg ist sie weiterhin kostenfrei erhältlich.

Hintergrund: Die App monocles chat ist ein Fork von #Conversations und setzt einen Schwerpunkt auf intuitiver Bedienung. Sie ähnelt vom Aufbau noch stärker den typischen Messengern.

Featurevergleich, siehe: apps.xmpp24.de


The monocles chat update 1.7.9.5 is available on the Playstore with a Easter special offer 🎉 .

There are several new fixes and features like:

* Initial GIFs picker
* Animated Avatars (up to 100kb and 480px)
* Initial status image preview
* Better image quoting
* Little battery usage reduction
* Updated translations
and much more

play.google.com/store/apps/det…

A good weekend to everyone!

#playstore #encryption #xmpp #chat #messenger #monocles #monocleschat


Wow!

@snikket_im just started their new federated instant messaging hosting service (based on #XMPP) for everyone.

This can really be a gamechanger for instant messaging.

You can bring your own domain name if you want to.

This means: for about 5.50€ (6$) a month (according to the website) you get ten instant messaging accounts for you and your family/friends using your personal domain name (not included).

And you are able to talk to every other XMPP user out there.

snikket.org/


I actually already do something like this based on the #app SMS to URL forwarder (f-droid.org/packages/tech.bogo…). The URL corresponds to a very simple endpoint (a CGI written in Bash!) that receives the SMS details and resends it to a #XMPP MUC.

My use case is that I have a mobile phone with an overseas SIM card that I keep at home while I want to know when it receives a SMS.

So having this functionality as part of #Conversations_im would be great.


I just read a review of Beeper¹ and I’m now thinking about SMS integration into #Conversations_im in the form of forwarding (mirroring) your SMS to your other #XMPP clients. (For example your desktop client or a tablet that runs Conversations but doesn’t have a SIM card.)

Obviously this would need buy in from at least one desktop client to display forwarded messages (@gajim, @dino).

Do you think this is something you would use?

¹: theverge.com/2024/3/20/2410621…

  • Yes (48%, 59 votes)
  • No (I don’t use SMS) (41%, 51 votes)
  • No (other reasons. see reply) (9%, 12 votes)
122 voters. Poll end: 8 months ago


XEP-xxxx: Message Displayed Synchronization


With Message Displayed Synchronization Conversations is now able to synchronize the read state (displayed) state of public conferences across multiple devices.


Wenn du Lust hast kannst du es ja auch mal mit #Conversations_im als Distributor (und einem ejabberd 24.02 auf der Serverseite) versuchen. Ich bin ja der Meinung das #XMPP Batterieeffizient und zuverlässig Nachrichten zustellen schon ganz gut kann. Eventuell sogar besser als #ntfy. Aber da wäre ich tatsächlich mal auf einen Vergleich gespannt.


We have an XMPP booth at the Chemnitzer Linux Tage. Join us for discussions about federated instant messaging and for stickers. #xmpp #dino #conversations_im #clt2024


We are at Chemnitzer Linux Tage. Come say hi! We have stickers.
#XMPP #Conversations_im #CLT2024


Google had accepted a version of #Conversations_im with address book integration that explicitly asks the user for consent to process the contact list locally on their device before requesting contacts permission. Our privacy policy included explicit wording w.r.t. local processing of the contact list.

However it’s unthinkable for Google that someone would request contacts permission and then not upload them. A few days later they changed their mind and threatened to remove the app again.
#XMPP


monocles chat 1.7.9.3 just arrived on the Playstore with awesome updates and on a great new level:

play.google.com/store/apps/det…

* Improve restore Backup
* No swiping anymore for commands and webxdc viewpager fixes several webxdc problems
* Initial stickers picker
* Bigger stickers
* Fix flashing emoji picker
* Fix commands view
And many more

Try it out with a WebXDC app of your choice:
webxdc.org/apps/

#monocleschat #monocles #chat #messenger #privacy #xmpp #webxdc


#XMPP / #Jabber picks of the day:

➡️ @joinjabber - Helping ordinary people get started on XMPP instant messaging & calling through joinjabber.org

➡️ @xmpp - Foundation maintaining the XMPP standard for instant messaging/calling

➡️ @xmpp_providers - Maintaining curated list of XMPP servers organised by quality

➡️ @snikket_im - Making XMPP easier to use & set up through consistent software/branding

➡️ @gajim - Free open source XMPP desktop app for Linux, Mac, Windows

🧵 1/4


Oh. Ejabberd 24.02 released. It's able to connect to Matrix? 😳

process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-…

#ejabberd #xmpp #matrix


Poprvé pořádně zkouším #xmpp komunikaci v terminálu, rozhodl jsem se vyzkoušet doporučené #ProfanityIM a je to super 😀👍 Těch možností a ta rychlost ⚡.
Samozřejmě to chce trošku pročíst základní informace na profanity-im.github.io/guide/0… a potom si vygenerovat svůj OMEMO a důvěřovat OMEMO klíčům od lidí, se kterými si chci šifrovaně psát. Ale během 10 minut jsem měl vše nastaveno.
Jen zatím nevím, jak uložit heslo, něco jako auto-login při spuštění, možná ví @archos ? #Linux #opensource #messaging


A bunch of XMPP developers and I (@dino, @Monal, #Conversations_im) will have a booth at the Chemnitzer Linux Tage (March 16th & 17th 2024).

Come talk to us about #XMPP and collect some merch.

chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2024/…

@clt_news


#monocles chat 1.7.9 is released on the playstore with a lot of updates and improvements! (See comments below)

play.google.com/store/apps/det…

#xmpp #chat #privacy #security #messenger


I checked the @gajim issue tracker for PKIX over Secure HTTP (POSH) support and it looks like it was implemented already 5 years ago: dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/-/is…

But I can't find the setting in the current #Gajim version and didn't managed to connect to my #xmpp server so far which uses "PKIX over Secure HTTP" for ssl verification.

#followerpower, any ideas?