I need to say it : #XMPP is also a good replacement. The first step to use it is not easy for everyone but once it is done it is way simpler than Matrix. My mother use XMPP with no problem! 😊
Why don't you include the federated #XMPP (aka Jabber) protocol as an alternative? There are plenty of good clients for the phone and PC, like #Conversations, #gajim, or #dino. With the modern extensions like Omemo E2EE and various improvements for mobile use, it is very useable even on phones, while keeping the flexibility and resilience of a federated service (just like the Fediverse).
#XMPP enthusiasts out there: what would you say the ultimate Achilles heel of the XMPP ecosystem is, at present? Fragmentation of clients? What?
My sense is that it's this: when one goes to store an XMPP address in one's addressbook, there doesn't seem to be standard way to store an XMPP address. #Android doesn't have that as an allowable field, and #Thunderbird and #Nextcloud have an "Instant Messaging" field, where the type can be set to "XMPP". But are these two compatible with each other when trying to sync between them? Edit: Yes, but there's a catch: *the XMPP address must be prefixed with "xmpp:"*
So "user@foo.bar" is not an OK XMPP address, but "xmpp:user@foo.bar" is.
Then to make matters worse, now there's a wish to change the labeling of "XMPP Address" to "Chat ID": gultsch.social/@daniel/1140129…
It might be a long time before the address synchy-ness ever works again between Android <-> #Davx5 <-> Nextcloud <->Thunderbird
Note: Android allows a "Jabber" type for an IM address, where you *don't* prefix the address with "xmpp:".
(#DeltaChat gets to gloat hard here, as they have plain-old email addresses)
If you're still recommending #Signal, you may have missed the tech oligarchs' takeover of the US government. The best time to recommend European alternatives was 8 years ago; the second best is now.
I just migrated my personal #XMPP server based on #Prosody to its own #selfhosted server. I could not believe how easy it was, including transferring configuration, accounts, stored messages/files, etc.
BTW, the new server is just tiny, with 1GB of RAM, and it still seems to use only a fraction of it.
I suppose this is the result of dealing with an amazing protocol (XMPP) coupled with an excellent piece of technology (Prosody) 👏
Thanks to @VishnuSanal and @mj for all their efforts to get this on the Play Store.
You can see an incomplete list of all the people who contribute to Prav at prav.app/credits/ (if you are missing or know someone else is missing in the list or your information is incomplete, feel free to send a pull request).
Y'a quelqu'un qui a déjà réussi à faire en sorte que ce test #xmpp passe ? compliance.conversations.im/te… J'ai ajouté le module http_altconnect à mon serveur prosody version 0.12.5 et que pouic
#Prav project started 3 years ago with the goal of mass adoption of private messaging powered by #XMPP and democratic decision-making. The project was inspired by #Quicksy and #Snikket.
I’m going to be at the Berlin XMPP Meetup on Wednesday, February 12th, chatting about what happened at the XMPP Summit.
I’ll either be discussing it with friends who were there or, if you want to join us, we’d be happy to share a summary of what’s new in the world of #XMPP!
@Lukáš Tyrychtr @Jure Repinc @Gregarious I would be interested to know how do you guys use the @Dino #XMPP messaging app with a #screenReader? When I launch it it opens one of my recent conversations. Input box has the focus. I can't figure out how to use the keyboard to navigate to the incoming chat, to the toolbar, to the menu and similar. I can use ctrl+tab to cycle through open conversations. I am using version 0.4.4.
This is what I think about whenever infosec wonks on here start telling people they should use matrix or xmpp+omemo or whatnot instead of signal
To be fair, I understand the arguments and to a large extent I agree with the critiques. However, I think anyone making these recommendations is vastly underestimating the capacity or appetite for most people to deal with the user experiences presented by these alternatives.
User experience is the ultimate force multiplier. For anything that requires network effects to function (ie most anything involving communication), if it doesn't *just work* then you've lost 90% of your audience.
My talk "A Universal and Stable API to Everything: XMPP" is already available online, thanks to FOSDEM staff for their amazing work, and thanks to people who attended or we met at the RT Lounge.
XMPP is a messaging protocol (among other things) that needs no introduction to any technical audience. Its various implementations have proliferated through technical communities for decades. Many…
I'm skipping #FOSDEM this year, but the #XMPP Standards Foundation will be there! Stop by the Realtime Lounge¹ to chat about XMPP, pick up some merch, and maybe grab a #Conversations_im sticker—while supplies last! 🚀
I don’t usually do this kind of evangelism, but if you’re looking for a reason to try #XMPP on #GlobalSwitchDay, now’s the perfect time: #Conversations_im is currently free on Google Play!
I don’t usually do this kind of evangelism, but if you’re looking for a reason to try #XMPP on #GlobalSwitchDay, now’s the perfect time: #Conversations_im is currently free on Google Play!
#XMPP or why all of us should move to use #standards for instant messaging instead of being locked in proprietary networks, centralized servers and/or proprietary protocols/software. Dreaming of a world without WhatsApp, Messenger, Telegram, and other beasts.
migrating from #WhatsApp to another centralized platform is not a real solution, that's why we are here in the #Fediverse and not in #BlueSky
Migrate from #WhatsApp to #DeltaChat and other decentralized alternatives, break free out of the silos once and for all and stop feeding billionaires/CEO incubators
This specification defines a protocol for end-to-end encryption in one-to-one chats, as well as group chats where each participant may have multiple clients per account.
📢 Mickaël Rémond and Jérôme Sautret from ProcessOne will be attending the upcoming XMPP Summit to collaborate on XMPP specifications and participate in discussions shaping the future of real-time messaging.
The gathering takes place in Brussels on 30th & 31st January 2025.
If you're an XMPP Software Foundation member planning to attend, we'd love to see you there! Let's connect and exchange ideas. 💬
Fix rare crashes on app startup
Don't lock up app on close
Improve internal logging
Fixed background crash
Revert christmas/winter special
Fix crash on incoming non-spec-conformant LMC
Make xmpp ga...
