Er is veel te doen om de nieuwe 'regels' van Firefox. Nu gebruik ik Thunderbird, wat ook van Mozzila is, voor mijn mail accounts. Weet iemand of Thunderbird ook de nieuwe regels , zoals die van Firefox, heeft? Ik heb het nergens kunnen vinden. Zo ja: wat is een goed vergelijkbaar alternatief voor een desktop pc? Voor m'n android tablet heb ik K-9 mail, maar die is er niet voor een 'gewone' pc.
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So, bottom line. The colors settings in #firefox is deceiving and useless to the modern user. Or is it really useless? I don't think so. If you use it correctly, it allows you to unleash the browser's powerful color contrast features that forces a specified foreground and background color on all web content.
Anyway, since two days ago, #firefox had the same dialog that has persisted in the browser for almost 30 years! What does it do? Nothing much. That is because the web today uses a technology called cascading style sheets. Websites are thoroughly themed through and through (or "skinned" if you prefer). Using a default foreground or background is almost unheard of...
Yesterday I had the satisfaction of tearing out a 30 year old Netscape-era feature from #firefox and introducing something that should be more useful in the modern #web. Hang tight and I will give you a visual history...
Behold Netscape 4 from 1997 looking right back at you:
@thunderbird I have been delaying my financial donation to #Thunderbird until I am able to confirm that NONE of it will go towards #Mozilla .
I've been using #Firefox for years and donating for years.
But with the recent 'spyware' TOS changes, Firefox is now dead to me.
So, can you confirm that when I click the 'Donate' button on the default Thunderbird start page, NONE of my donated cash will go to Mozilla?
(If so, perhaps the 'start page' of Thunderbird could be updated to make that fact clear. I suspect that there may be many others like me who've assumed FF and T'bird are funded by 'consolidated' revenue streams.)
Due to @mozillaofficial 's change on #Firefox, I'm trying @brave and probably phasing out from Firefox. I'm also looking for a @thunderbird replacement as well, open for suggestions!
Does anyone know if #LibreWolf or any other privacy focused #firefox forks keep #screenreader and other #accessibility features? Sadly, most of these projects seem to consider accessibility an unneeded feature that ads bloat and security issues and just strip it out completely, so I don't have high hopes. This just seems to be the latest one getting popular after the recent #firefox issues. #a11y
There will be a lot of necessary debate over Mozilla’s original mistake and this hopeful change. This is a good move, and as a long-term user of Firefox I find it very welcome.
Organizations are made of people and make mistakes.
Can you imagine Google or Apple so quickly changing their stances like this in response to user input? Or even at all?
Brave has many integrations with third party vendors. How quickly would they sever financial ties in a similar situation?
DuckDuckGo has a lot of gaps in their privacy models.
We need more open browsers developed by communities for the public good, not unlike Firefox.
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I've switched to lurking here for a while due to the effects the current political situation in the US is having on me. I am making some big changes to how I do things, including how I livestream and host various products of my math research. I'll be posting about the steps I take as I take them.
I have switched from #Firefox to #Librewolf on my desktops. This was pretty easy since I have been storing my bookmarks as a plain text file on my desktop for a while now. Very portable. I just wish #VideoDownloadHelper worked on Librewolf.
I am looking into #XMPP now and trying to find a server to sign up for. Does anyone know any with open registration?
I have also recently gotten into #IRC again, and am excited to get more familiar with the #Pidgin client on desktop.
We’ve been listening to some of our community’s concerns with parts of the TOU, specifically about licensing. Our intent was just to be as clear as possible about how we make Firefox work, but in doing so we also created some confusion and concern.
Why can't #Mozilla just hire some competent management that stops the dumb decisions?
The only real USP of Firefox is Privacy, why would you drop that and just be the average thing that google keeps alive to avoid an anti trust lawsuit?
That's not a smart business decision, or is it? if so, could you explain what I'm not seeing? I really want to keep liking #firefox and mozilla, but I'm really on the verge of loosing faith here.
Looks like we all need to find replacements for #Firefox and #Thunderbird.
I'm trying out LibreWolf on Windows, but what can replace Thunderbird that's cross platform (Win, Mac, Linux, at least)? SeaMonkey, maybe? Is that independent from Mozilla?
#Mozilla seems intent on profit at the expense of users.
#Mozilla isn’t addressing the number one question: why did they remove this section from their #firefox terms of services?
> * Does Firefox sell your personal data?
> Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That’s a promise.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but to my understanding, @mozillaofficial has in a matter of days:
Added a disclaimer to give themselves a licence to anything entered into the browser:
"When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox." ref
Banned sexual content (porn)
"Upload, download, transmit, display, or grant access to content that includes graphic depictions of sexuality or violence," ref
Removed the disclaimer that they don't sell your data ref
Embraced web manifest v3 (which breaks ad-blockers) ref
It genuinely looks like they're actively violating their founding principles, purging any & all good-will for the sake of going for-profit..
While some browsers are phasing out Manifest V2 entirely, Firefox is keeping it alongside Manifest V3 — ensuring powerful privacy tools remain available to users.
I used to be a big fan of the #Opera #browser. And what I see happening now with #Firefox is very similar to what happened with Opera.
Opera Software ASA acquired AdMarvel, a mobile advertising company, in 2010. Advertising became the primary business, and the browser was sidelined, dropped its own engine, and was eventually sold to Chinese investors, who completed the enshittification. The spirit around the original Opera was reborn with #Vivaldi, but the engine was lost.
#Mozilla acquired Anonym, an advertising company, in 2024 and started making really worrying decisions about Firefox...
I just hope it doesn't go the same way, for the sake of the Web.
Please do criticise #Mozilla – we need an independent, privacy-preserving, feature-rich web browser, not another tracking-infested piece of garbage software.
However, the frequently expressed opinion that “Firefox should be abandoned because Mozilla is the worst bullshit company” is not helpful. Without #Firefox, all your favourite forks (Tor, LibreWolf, Zen…) would struggle to survive and the Google-Apple complex would fully control the browser market.
New Mozilla TOS diff. This is what they just removed:
* Does Firefox sell your personal data?
> Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That’s a promise.
The purpose of the new TOS appears to be to enable them to do this - such as for their advertising and AI sidelines.
"When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox."
so, let it be clear:
I DO NOT CONSENT to Mozilla Corp. accessing or using ANYTHING i type in my browser, whether to serve ads, train LLMs or ANYTHING.
On Wednesday, Mozilla introduced legal updates to users of Firefox, and something feels off. I read, and re-read the new Terms of Use and while much of it reads like standard boilerplate from any tech company, there’s a new section that is unexpected…
Of course, this doesn't make sense, it couldn't be just like that... so I went on and read the terms. The trick is specifically on this bit:
"These Terms only apply to the Executable Code version of Firefox, not the Firefox source code."
So sure, Firefox is still the Free Software codebase you were used to, only now if you want to use not the code but Mozilla's distributed binaries, you'll do so while also agreeing to some Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.
The trick is, of course, to not use their binaries. In practice, things are a bit trickier. Ubuntu, for instance, was more than happy to ditch their self-compiled Firefox packages and use Mozilla-provided snaps instead.
But trickier or not... well, Mozilla has just made an unhappy user base unhappier - and I hope they reap what they are sowing.
General rule of thumb: Every time an organization updates their terms of service and/or privacy policy, it is never because they have your best interests at heart.
Setting aside the "worldwide license" bullshit, the privacy policy appears to have broadened both the classes of data Mozilla aims to collect, and the situations in which they collect them.
These are not the actions of an org that cares about your privacy.
I'm using #zenbrowser as a casual replacement to Firefox atm. The native customization options are a big feature plus for me. #arkenfox user.js can be applied to any #firefox fork.
In the future #ladybird could be a good option, lets see...
Vivaldi with uBlock Origin Lite and the built-in blockers turned on works well, and overall, I trust the company, even if I don't prefer their browser. At least they're a European company with all the protections included.
Firefox, on the other hand, does have the reputation. I'm concerned about their direction though, and I have concerns about AI. If they develop it for localized translations, that's not too bad. As for advertising, I understand they need to find an income stream that's not Google, and if the ads are based on the site being visited, not on user browsing history, that's fine. I expect to see ads for beer and trucks when I watch sports, so why not ads for music-related companies if I visit a music website.
I've been using #Firefox derivative #Zen #browser for a couple of months, and am very happy with it. As a refugee from #Arc, I love the similar tab UI and the split-screen view. And it has all of the #privacy features of Firefox, with none of the #chromium
Gestern habe ich erfahren, dass #Mozilla in "privatsphäre-respektierende" Werbung investiert. Ich bin da etwas skeptisch; #Privatsphäre und #Werbung stehen sich irgendwo diametral gegenüber. Darum habe ich mich mal nach Alternativen umgelesen. Dabei bin ich auf #librewolf gestossen, ein Fork von #Firefox, mit dem Schwerpunkt auf Privatsphäre und Sicherheit. #UBlock und weitere Features sind standardmässig mit an Bord. Werde ich wohl die Tage mal antesten...
I'm baffled about the myriad of @mozillaofficial structures, amount of directors / C-level people & how to rhyme 'investing in privacy-respecting advertising; with 'draw a bigger circle of supporters over the long run.'
As a long time Mozilla supporter, I was already unhappy about the direction of the last years & this does certainly not bode well for the future. 😞 😩
Unfortunately, this year I could not join nor organize any in-person celebration, BUT of course I want to share my gratitude to the many, countless #FreeSoftware services I don’t merely use, but actually depend on.
Last year, I decided to focus only on #YunoHost, because it would have been crazy to list all the projects I use and I love.
This time, even if I will most certainly forget someone, I am challenging myself to mention all the #LibreSoftware my life is powered by.
#Obtainium, for making me directly download apps on my phone, and @fdroidorg for distributing them
#AuroraStore, for proxying the download of apps I am doomed to get from Google Play
@element, for developing #Synapse, even though the new proprietary Synapse Pro is VERY PROBLEMATIC AND DISAPPOINTING
#Fractal, for being the most beautiful and awesome #Matrix client ever
@signalapp, for keeping me connected with the people I love
@Mastodon, for also maintaining a feature-packed experimental fork (#GlitchSoc), that is what Pan runs
#Tuba and #Moshidon, for being the most beautiful and awesome #Mastodon clients ever
#Firefox, for still remaining the best possible #browser choice, despite #Mozilla’s governance messiness
@openstreetmap, for allowing us to find the right path, both literally and metaphorically!
@organicmaps, for being the simplest, cleanest, yet feature-rich #OSM client and navigation app
@protonvpn, for making me browse safely from/to anywhere in the planet and @protonprivacy #ProtonMail, for hosting my email, despite the latest alarming political statements…
@libreoffice, for allowing me to draft documents with ease, the last of which was my #CV
#LanguageTool, for preventing me from making embarassing spelling mistakes
@photoprism, for safely storing and indexing all my photographic memories, on Aby, and for providing stellar and friendly support too!
#Actual, for moderating the very likely risk of ending up completely broke, since it forces me to manage my finances consciously and coherently
@readeck, for storing and sorting ALL my varied and overwhelming inputs
@nextcloud, for storing and synchronizing my data, for its #calendar, its #tasks, and all its awesome apps
#Rustdesk, for preventing my friends and family members from going crazy, by allowing me to remotely connect to their devices and directly address the issues they have
@forgejo, for giving us a chance to truly control and collectively develop the sources of our software, but most importantly @Codeberg, for RESISTING, RESISTING, RESISTING, despite the hatred and attacks nazi assholes throw at them
@musicbrainz for keeping music knowledge open and free, and @ListenBrainz for scrobbling the crazy music I listen to
The @fsfe, for promoting this celebration and fighting the good fight!
Lastly, but most importantly, the biggest thank you goes to all the free software libraries and dependencies the above mentioned #software are made of/built with, including #C, #JavaScript, #Python, #Rust, and all community-maintained programming languages.
La petite fierté du matin ? Outrepasser la flemme et désinstaller Chrome sur le PC du taf, et tout rapatrier sous #firefox ! Après avoir décidé d'utiliser #thunderbird pour mes mails pros, un petit pas de plus sous les #logicielslibres 😁
