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Chromium now has initial, experimental support for the xdg-session-management #wayland protocol, which will start shipping in canary channel in the coming days. I've implemented and tested it against Mutter 48, the only compositor supporting it atm - also experimentally - since version 47.

Quick demo at youtu.be/OG9ZLXzlwkQ

#chromium #wayland #linux #gnome #opensource #foss



New in GNOME 48 is the necessary support for keyboard handling by the Orca screen reader in Wayland sessions. As I reported on the Orca mailing list recently, I have updated my system, and this support is so far working as intended. You need Mutter 48 and the latest AT-SPI installed.

Thanks are owed to the software developers responsible for this work.
#gnome #accessibility #Linux #Wayland


I’ve been working on a #freebsd from scratch blog post series and was going to skip right over Xorg (preferring #wayland and #sway)…and then I heard about #NSCDE - a reimplementation of #Solaris #CDE look-and-feel via #fvwm

Thanks to work by Christian Moerz, it was a snap. Literally `pkg install Xorg nscde` a change to my .xinitrc and I was up in a pastel bliss again. Run #interlisp on it is a beautiful joy.

I was so impressed AND I got to avoid abandonware security holes and bit rot— so I sent some librepay love. It’s a great project!


Experimented yesterday with Fedora’s KDE spin… I was shocked by the level of accessibility, although it wasn’t perfect. My primary issues with it were that I had to use a lot of Orca’s navigation commands to read panels in the systems settings app, and I had major issues with Konsole, the default terminal app. I wasn’t able to read any of the information in that particular apps interface using Orca. I also tried the Fedora workstation edition, which uses Gnome as it’s a desktop environment. Let’s just say that was not worth my time. Had accessibility issues there as well, and surprisingly it was worse than the experience I had with KDE. I know KDE defaults to Wayland, as does Gnome, but KDE’s accessibility implementation seems to be a lot better than what Gnome has under Wayland, with the exceptions I’ve previously mentioned. Incidentally, the X 11 experience with Gnome is actually worse now than it was previously. For example, the terminal app does not even open for me. I should also note that all this is under Fedora 41, so people aren’t confused. #A11Y #Accessibility #Blind #Experiments #Linux #Fedora41 #KDePlasma #Gnome #Wayland #X11


For those encountering random video playback application crash heisenbugs on the open source #AMDgpu #Mesa drivers on #Linux (thankfully, with #Wayland this no longer crashes the entire system), with the suspicious "CS has been rejected" error, here is the bug I reported upstream: gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/me…

The theory is that the DRM's implementation of AMD's Unified Video Decoder does not properly keep track of #Flatpak process IDs. A patch is underway.

#opensource #AMD #Radeon #GStreamer



Introducing Casilda - A Wayland compositor widget!

A simple Wayland compositor widget for Gtk 4 which can be used to embed other processes windows in your Gtk 4 application.
It was originally created for Cambalache's workspace using wlroots, a modular library to create Wayland compositors.
Following Wayland tradition, this library is named after my hometown in Santa Fe, Argentina

Read more about it at blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/2024/09/…

@GTK #wayland #gtk


Now that the storm has passed — I can share an update on screen reader support under Wayland.

As part of STF; GNOME has been working since the end of last year on resolving the matter.

The main issue is that we currently lack a way to “snoop on” or “grab” key events from the compositor.

We now have a draft protocol and implementation in Orca and Mutter thanks to @matt

We are doing our best to get it ready for GNOME 47.

#GNOME #a11y #Linux #freedesktop #Wayland



The state of Unix/Linux accessibility is even worse then I feared 🙈 . Fedora has been shipping with a broken screen reader for NINE YEARS?

Orca doesn't work on any distribution that ships with Wayland by default? 😭 (thanks @aral for bringing it my attention)

Do all the distributions and such know that next year they should be accessible?

I can't code and I am not familiar with testing desktop apps, but I would really like to know how I can help to fix this.

(allthough it shows a bigger problem in open source and it's culture)

Read more: ar.al/2024/06/23/fedora-has-be…

Luckily the Newton Project should fix this blogs.gnome.org/a11y/2024/06/1…, but still: it shows accessiiblity is often an afterthought.

#accessibility #opensource #orca #gnome #wayland #screenreader


Update on Newton, the Wayland-native accessibility project

There's incredibly good news for people who use accessibility tools on Linux, but who were facing serious, gamebreaking problems when trying to use Wayland. Matt Campbell, of the GNOME accessibility team, has been hard at work on an entirely new accessibility architecture for modern free desktops, and he's got some impre

osnews.com/story/139996/update…

#Wayland



For eight years Fedora has been shipping GNOME with a broken screen reader!

EIGHT YEARS!

(Wayland has been default on Fedora for eight years – since Fedora 25, released in 2016.)

And a hundred-billion-dollar corporation like IBM ships operating systems today based on it with a broken screen reader.

What is an ableist culture? One in which the people who call this out get ostracised.

#ableism #fedora #redHat #IBM #gnome #cosmic #wayland #a11y #system76 #linux fosstodon.org/@soller/11264637…


Here's my latest update on Newton, the #Wayland-native, #Flatpak-friendly #accessibility project for the modern #FreeDesktop ecosystem, developed as part of @gnome and funded by @sovtechfund. It's not ready for production yet, but this blog post includes a demo video and links to GNOME OS and Flatpak runtime builds you can try. As a bonus, because I'm integrating #AccessKit into #GTK, GTK apps will finally have #a11y on Windows and macOS. blogs.gnome.org/a11y/2024/06/1…


Here is my new GNU/Linux distribution guide about Debian KDE 12, the right GNU/Linux distribution for professional digital painting in 2024! Also about three major problems with GNU/Linux distros that will drive away all professional artists, IMO, and how I got kicked out of the Fedora KDE ecosystem with F40, which imposed Plasma6 and Wayland. I hope it helps other artists here!

Blog post: davidrevoy.com/article1030/deb…

#linux #x11 #wayland #debian #fedora #krita #plasma #kde



Is anyone following me a #wayland expert? My Chuwi MiniBook X can only do 50Hz, but users on Windows have managed to crank that up to 60 or even 90. I've tried to use this method to do set a custom resolution/refresh rate on wayland:

davejansen.com/add-custom-reso…

But it didn't work. Any suggestions on how to force wayland to use a refresh rate the display wrongly claims it doesn't support?


This is kinda a technology preview in order to see if we can ship features like this enabled by default in a lot more apps in the ecosystem.

Thus I'd be very super happy if you'll try it on lots of hardware - be Intel/AMD laptops or ARM64 devices (with V4L2 stateless decoders, such as most #LinuxMobile devices).

Chances that you really hit a zero-copy path are highest with a recent #Wayland compositor - i.e. if you are using #GNOME46, #kde6 or a recent version of #sway, #weston, #cosmic etc.



@nah @fvsch @sonny @matt But here’s the thing: Wayland would never have been made the default if, say, fonts didn’t render correctly. Not having a functional screen reader is as big an issue for people who rely on screen readers. So at some point, someone at Canonical decided that it didn’t matter that people who use screen readers would be excluded. And so they should be ashamed.

#a11y #canonical #wayland #orca #screenReaders #accessibility


So @gnome is removing the x11 session, leaving just the Wayland one.

If this goes out before Orca, the GNOME screen reader, is fixed to work on Wayland, it will mean that people who rely on screen readers will have no way to use one on GNOME. And thus on the major Linux distributions.

So I’m hoping the plan is that this change will not land until GNOME has a working screen reader.

#accessibility #a11y #gnome #linux #openSource #foss #wayland #x11 #orca peoplemaking.games/@ailepet/11…



TIL: #Wayland breaks most screen readers, as they are not not intended by design. (they need to interact with other apps)

Wayland is now the default in pretty much all gnome distros.

Orca has workarounds, but they are not merged and not fully working. (And a blind user can't built it without a working screen reader)

I'm not entirely sure if I got this correct, but it seems to me like the #Linux community once again booted the #blind.
wiki.gnome.org/Accessibility/W…
wayland-devel.freedesktop.nark…





Update regarding #wayland zero-copy video playback (using hardware planes): with a few small patches it works with #Chromium, both with #vaapi (Intel/AMD) and #v4l2 stateless.

Here a short video using a #rk3399 - the #PINE64 #PinebookPro - playing a 4k 60fps video - only possible with hardware plane offloading. Playback is *almost* smooth already (~50fps), the goal is to catch up with #GStreamer where we get stable 60.

I hope this will all get upstreamed in the coming months.


Regarding the future of video playback in #gnome I'd like to add some more context around current developments in #gnomeshell, #gtk4 and #Wayland in a short 🧵

TL;DR: by making use of more modern hardware features we're finally in the position to catch up to other platforms with regards to energy efficiency. So let's do it!


My personal vision with all of this is to see #wayland desktop technologies not only catching up with what other OSs offer, but becoming leading players - just like what other FLOSS projects already archived (or are in the process of becoming) in their areas. I'm thinking of #mesa, #pipewire, #gstreamer, #systemd, the kernel of course, and many others.



#Chromium landed support for fractional scaling on #Wayland a couple of days ago. It was reverted again today. Reason for revert: This change completely broke Chromium Ozone/Wayland on compositors that support fractional-scale-v1.

Nobody had ever tested it and the authors missed the whole actual scaling part with wp_viewporter.

Anyhow, here's a working initial patch for #Firefox:
bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.…


Xfce’s Apps Update for February 2023: Ristretto Gets Printing Support, Orage Gets #Wayland Support, Major Notifications Changes, and Much More 9to5linux.com/xfces-apps-updat…

#Xfce #Linux #OpenSource #FreeSoftware