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Sometimes, you might think that previous #accessibility wisdom has been superseded by new "facts". Maybe someone told you that #screenReaders don't work well with a particular design pattern, but you tested #ScreenReader X and it seemed to work fine. Perhaps you heard that an interactive HTML input doesn't persist with forced colours styling, but you tried a High Contrast mode in Microsoft Edge and it seemed to be there.

There are three considerations usually missing here:

1. How are you defining and evaluating the working state? Do you have a functional, accurate understanding of the #accessTechnology or accessibility feature you are asserting things about?
2. You tested one thing in relation to a statement about multiple things, e.g. a statement is made about screen readers, plural, and you only tested with #VoiceOver (it's always VoiceOver). Beyond posting on the web-a11y Slack, how do you propose testing more broadly, if you plan to at all?
3. Possibly the most critical at all: is this question worth its overheads? If answering it conclusively would require me to test ten screen readers with 45 speech engines, or seven browsers with 52 permutations of CSS properties, maybe following the advice is "cheaper" than determining whether the advice is still completely relevant.

Important disclaimer: this relates specifically to cases where following the advice would not actively make things worse for users.

TL;DR: when you know doing a thing won't make things bad, doing the thing is usually quicker than evaluating whether not doing the thing is also bad.


Can anyone recommend a good accessible #Journaling app that works on Windows and iOS? #NVDASR #VoiceOver #Accessibility #Screenreader


Okay, is there a clearly defined thing that makes voiceover stop saying "clickable" everywhere, like this word is sooo annoying, it starts to lose its meaning when you hear it more than, say, twice. I found that even low verbosity settings don't help much. I'll be glad if anyone has suggestions.Thanks. #MacOs #VoiceOver #Accessibility #Help #Blind


Hi dear #iOS users! I have a Health widget on my home screen. Is there a way to make it show steps instead of calories, percentage and what not, or it will be reason number 7001 why I don't like Apple's policies? And if it's the later, please suggest a #VoiceOver accessible app for that? Thanks!


I have to explore that use of DT further as it seems pretty niche and obscure (people on the forum didn't make such a topic before) but I am confident it can be done and it can help.
4. Paperwork: I have many invoices, serial numbers, contracts, acts and many other legal stuff. Everyone does but the problem with me is that I am helping some others with their paperwork. With advanced organization capability of DT I can very easily see which paper belongs to whom and whether I have already filled it, whether its a template that I can reuse over and over to ask my dear government for a piece of bread or whatever else that comes to mind. Another awesome thing is the automatic OCR feature, I have set up a simple smart rule which automatically OCRs every non-textual PDF, and since DT interfaces with Finereader's engine the results is very good, I would dare to say its better than the official Finereader for Mac, but that is subjective, might be inaccurate or accurate only in certain scenarios, be ware.
I have just wrote four things that came to mind otherwise this would become the second Bible, but the tool has endless use cases. Its not cheap and its not for everyone, but if you want to try it it has a very fair trial. If you have any questions, let me know. Let's learn DEVON Think together!
#blind #accessibility #a11y #VoiceOver #Mac #software (2/2)


Last week a colleague asked me for practical, real-world demonstrations from real screen reader users. I think I have decent ideas but I'd like to hear about anything others have shared and found effective. #accessibility #blind #screen #reader #JAWS #NVDA #VoiceOver


Breaking: #MacOS #Sonoma 14.4 fixes the #VMWare Fusion issue that meant you couldn't run a VM with #VoiceOver active. Been waiting for this update for a long time. Happy day.


I wrote an article about how to make hastags accessible. Did some #ScreenReader testing with #JAWS, #NVDA, #VoiceOver and #Narrator, which was fun!

Pretty long one though, contains a bunch of tables for comparison. Enjoy the ride!

https://stevefrenzel.dev/posts/easy-web-accessibility-wins-hashtags/

#accessibility #a11y #html #JavaScript #WebDev #frontend


I am extremely clumsy when it comes to testing things with #VoiceOver for #accessibility, but I do try. I have a question:

Is it possible to completely skip over a table on a web page? I know VoiceOver has options to navigate it, but is there a way (or best practice I can implement) to just skip right past it?

Context: Planning handling accessibility for Chart.js. Planned MVP is to add an accessible description. Potential enhancement is to embed the data as a table.

Continued…


Yesterday I started a new miniseries on my channel, in which I try to make a tutorial about a single topic in under 10 minutes. Starting with:
Logic Pro Bite Size for VI's - Loading Third Party Plugins https://youtu.be/nIRyG-puBfs
#LogicPro #Blind #VI #VisuallyImpaired #ScreenReader #VoiceOver


I’ve started a new miniseries on my channel today, in which I try to make a tutorial about a single topic in under 10 minutes. Starting with:
Logic Pro Bite Size for VI's - Loading Third Party Plugins https://youtu.be/nIRyG-puBfs
#LogicPro #Blind #VI #VisuallyImpaired #ScreenReader #VoiceOver


If you're a #blind #Mac user, you may have never found a use for that bizarre combination of keys which is VO+Shift+F3. this disables cursor-tracking. Let me show you why this may in fact, be one of #VoiceOver's best hidden features you didn't know about.
Why_Turning_Off_VoiceOver_Cursor_Tracking_can_be_Really_Useful:


@matt I use the Spitfire Audio downloader (for my sins) on Mac and it's 99.5% accessible with VOCR, and 1% accessible with #VoiceOver. the only reason it gets the 1% is because just like when you write your name, date and title at the top of the paper you likely get marked for good spelling, we can see the close button, but nothing else. Haha.
In this instance, you'd best know how to use VOCR before you get into their libraries, without it, you're simply out of luck.
Situations like that, sure. But that's different from an email from a supposed reputable company with important information that absolutely, without question, *needs* to be in a format that is accessible to *all* customers, irrespective of ability or disability.

You don't *need* spitfire, but if a company have suffered some kind of hack, you *do* need to know about it, you know?


Greetings!

Well, after finding out that #WhaleBird
https://github.com/h3poteto/whalebird-desktopis a decent enough accessible MacOS client for use with #Misskey, you'll see me post on here from time to time now as well! Most of the time I'll still be posting on my Mastodon account, though watch this space! Three-Thousand characters is more than i ever would need myself, but I'll take it!

For users of #VoiceOver, the 'J' & 'k' keys currently do not speak under the curssor what the post is, thus nornal VO commands for now are necessary. Definitely a client for #Blind users to check out though!

NB. As noted among the GitHub page, WhaleBird is also available for #Windows and #Linux, though I'll leave those builds to you guys!


OK, this is great. Just found an #iOS equivalent of #MacWhisper and it’s free. Not sure if it always is, but it certainly is right now.
It’s #Accessible and works well with #VoiceOver.

#Aiko by Sindre Sorhus

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/aiko/id1672085276


Not really. It's #VoiceOver for #iOS, and different synths treat it differently, but it is not a reliable or nice experience. You may have an easy ride, but that doesn't mean everyone else will, and my post proves this. There's simply no need for this kind of frilly behaviour. Standard lettering is not only understandable by a #ScreenReader, but by a non-English speaker too, who may not recognise those letters for their so-called intended purpose.


iOS Shortcuts. Darcy Burnard, from the Maccessibility podcast, did a 10 part series on understanding and using shortcuts. If you are interested in iOS shortcuts, I would highly recommend checking out this series! You can find it on the ACB Community podcast. You can either join the podcast through your favorite podcast app, or go to the website link at the end. Now there is many different things posted to this podcast feed. But just do a search for Understanding Shorcuts, and this will filter them out. The series ran from January 23rd to April 10th. Thanks to Darcy for putting in the time and doing this series! I personally listen to them through my podcast app, but here is the website link if you want it. https://acb-community.pinecast.co. #iOS #Shortcuts #Tip #UnderstandingShortcuts #Blind #Voiceover @DHSDarcy


Inspired by the creative use of some nifty JAWS scripting and the power of iOS shortcuts as demonstrated by @IllegallyBlind, I have decided to try my hand at creating something similar for NVDA and I think I've succeeded. Note that I'm fairly new at this and by no means a coder so this is the simplest of simple, in fact, I'm still quite amazed that it works, actually.
What we need:
1. The NVDA Speech Logger addon available at:
https://github.com/opensourcesys/speechLogger
2. The following iOS shortcut:
https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/999808bd155e443ca8e6d0c0d58a56ad
How to use:
1. Install both: the addon in your NVDA and the shortcut in your shortcuts respectively.
2. In NVDA's settings head over to the Speech Logger category and set the output path to your Dropbox root (that's what the shortcut assumes you're using, feel free to modify as needed);
3. Start logging the local speech with the assigned gesture (by default NVDA+alt+l);
4. Assuming the shortcut is configured properly (Dropbox authorized and all that jazz), launch it and a viewer will pop up with the fresh version of the log file at the time.
One nuissance I've found with this is that the viewer overlay will not surround the VO gestures so you need to focus it first through exploration before you can start reading the log. Also the gestures for the first and last item on the screen will move you to whatever else should be on your screen right now so you have to explore again to close the viewer. I assume that's a VO bug.
Also bear in mind that, while logging, anything your PC says will ultimately land in a regular text file and nothing apart from your Dropbox account is protecting it. Use with caution.
Feel free to suggest feedback.
#Accessibility #Tip #VoiceOver #NVDA #iPhone #iOS #Windows #Blind


Fellow #iOS #swift #swiftui developers. Do you know if the ButtonRole structure actually does anything purposeful? With #VoiceOver, I cannnot get any indication whatsoever about the button’s role, while at the AppleDeveloper documentation site: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/swiftui/buttonrole, they state that such an info should be conveyed. Is there any visual indication of the role? If so, what?


To all my #blind #Mac #VoiceOver users, I made a demo that I hope some here may find beneficial. Please do share if you feel like it. Why Turning Off VoiceOver Cursor Tracking can be Really Useful:


Good news for the @Mastodon #iOS app‘s #VoiceOver support. @jedfox has been on a roll these last few days and has added some really awesome #accessibility related pull requests to the public repository. Hope they all get merged soon and new TestFlight builds be made available so we can test them out before release. Among the fixes is the compose button, custom actions, better labels in the compose screen, and more.

Hope @Gargron or @zeitschlag can approve and merge them soon. #a11y