Ok so does anyone know why with #NVDA I cannot send an email in #Outlook? I hit reply, type the email, and cannot exit the edit area and find the send button. Latest release builds of Windows 11 pro, and Nvda 225. @main @mastoblind @NVAccess
As if I didn't already know it, #Microsoft customer support has proven to be useless. I requested an export of my #Outlook (.com, not the desktop app) email account over a week ago. The page said it'll take up to four days. I contact support and they tell me that exporting online isn't supported. Why offer it then‽
So I downloaded #Thunderbird, connected to my account and have synced my inbox. Currently exporting it using an add-on.
Next job after that is to import it to my new @Tutanota inbox, then cancel my Outlook subscription.
For anyone who uses Classic Outlook for emails with JAWS, there’s a bug introduced by recent updates. If you want to send a brand new email & use Control N to start the process, JAWS will announce that you are in the CC edit field. No matter how much you tab around, you will not find the To edit field. Apparently, focus is actually in the To field, but JAWS is misreading it and announcing CC instead of To. And when it says you are in the BCC field, you are actually in the CC field. I thought Iwas doing something wrong, but I called Microsoft Disability Help Desk and they confirmed this has already been reported. Hopefully a fix will come out soon. #Technology #Accessibility #Outlook #Microsoft
Just a reminder, especially in this wild time we live in. DO NOT INSTALL WORK MDM ON YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE. If your work requires Microsoft Intune or similar MDM, to get email/teams/slack. don't accept it. It opens your device up for them to access private data and disable/delete your phone (even if they say they wont, they can)
In this new age of BYOD (Bring Your Own Device), employees can bring personally
owned devices (laptops, tablets, smartphones, etc...) to their workplace, and to
use those devices to access privileged company information and applications.
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For those of you who are switching to #Thunderbird from #Outlook, do the following to ensure as seamless an experience as possible while using a #screenreader. Note, these do not have to be done in this order. 1. If preferred, add your account by filling in the form that is presented on the screen which appears for the first time you open Thunderbird. This will get your first Email account connected properly to TB. 2. Once you are presented with the main TB window and the various folders (inbox, sent, etc.), you know your account has successfully been added. Press F8 to disable the preview pane. This will reduce clutter and allow you to simply press Enter on a message to open it rather than having to navigate it in the main TB window. 3. Open the Tools menu with Alt+T, then press Uparrow until you get to Settings and press Enter. Note, this is not the same as Account Settings. 4. Once in Settings, find the following items and make sure they are set as shown below. A. Under General heading. When Thunderbird launches, show the Start Page in the message area Alt+Shift+W check box not checked. This will prevent Thunderbird from showing its normal startup page and reduce the resulting clutter in the main TB window. B. Under General heading, optional. When Thunderbird is minimized, move it to the tray Alt+Shift+m check box not checked. When this checkbox is checked, every time you minimize the application, Thunderbird moves to the system tray and consequently requires activation every time you want to quickly get back to it. I personally find this bothersome, so I have disabled this particular behavior. C. Under General heading, optional. Hide system window titlebar Alt+Shift+H check box not checked. I personally like all the information I can get when reading my titlebar, so I prefer to have this disabled. D. Under Incoming Mails heading, Optional. Show an alert Alt+Shift+S check box not checked. Note, do not disable this setting if you desire to change the setting below it. If desired, change the setting below first, then move back and change this one afterward if preferred. When this item is checked, the screenreader will automatically announce when each message arrives. This is a bit too chatty for my personal preference, so I have it disabled. E. Under Incoming Mails heading, optional. Use the system notification check box not checked. Note, change this setting first if desired before changing the one above it, as this checkbox becomes unavailable when the setting above is disabled. This item allows Thunderbird to send a system notification to the Windows 10/11 Action Center. You get the system notification sound, as well as any accompanying speech and can view the notifications that way. I personally find this overkill, so I have disabled it. F. Under Incoming Mails heading. Play a sound Alt+Shift+d check box checked. This will allow Thunderbird to play a sound whenever a new message arrives. You can either use the sound that has been set up for the default Windows notification sound for mail or choose your own by specifying the file you would prefer using the Browse option. G. Under Reading and Display Heading. Set Open New Messages In to A New Message Window. This will exhibit the more familiar behavior of Outlook and open the message in its own window when you press Enter on it. H. Under Reading and Display heading, optional. Close message window/tab on move or delete Alt+Shift+C check box checked. This tells Thunderbird to close the message window if you happen to move or delete it from the main TB window. I personally have this enabled for convenience. I. Under Reading and Display heading, optional. Preferred Address Display Format set to Name Only. I prefer this because it cuts down on chatter. This way, as you arrow through messages, you will see only the name of the sender along with other header information, rather than both the name and Email address. 5. Once all the settings are to your liking, press Control+W to close Settings and return to the main TB window. 6. Open the View menu with Alt+V and press Rightarrow on the Toolbars menu. Uncheck all the items there except for Status Bar. This results in less clutter in the main TB window. 7. Return to the View menu with Alt+T and press Rightarrow on Layout. Press Enter on Classic View. This optimizes the view a little bit more for screenreader use. 8. From the main TB Window, Shift+Tab until you find the Message List Display Options button. Activating this will bring up a context menu. Once in this menu, make sure that Table View is checked. This will allow you access to message headers and the ability to order them how you would like. 9. Finally, from the message list in the main TB window, Shift+Tab once. You'll find a toolbar that consists of several buttons. These are your message headers. If you wish your screenreader to announce Read Status first, find the Sort By Read Status button, then press alt+leftarrow. This will move the header over. Note, this does not mean you will be sorting message by Read Status. Sort By is announced because if you click on these headers, you can sort the messages by the header that is selected. Use Alt+Leftarrow or Alt+Rightarrow to find the preferred position of the selected header. To check or confirm the order of your headers, press Tab and arrow through your message list. I have Read Status first, followed by attachments and so on. This makes the reader announce the read status of the message, then whether or not there are attachments, followed by whatever header (e.g. correspondents) comes next. Change the order of the message headers to match how you would like your reader to announce the associated items as you arrow through your message list. Press F6 and Shift+F6 to jump quickly between Email folders and message lists.
Hope this helps, and enjoy your shiny new Email client! #A11y #Blind #JAWS #NVDA
Bon sinon, Microsoft m’informe que « Le 16 septembre 2024, les applications qui utilisent une technologie de connexion moins sécurisée ne pourront plus accéder à votre messagerie. », or j’ai un compte Outlook (oui je sais), qui sert peu mais dont j’ai néanmoins l’usage, que pour le moment je consulte avec Thunderbird.
Je n’ai pas envie d’installer l’appli Outlook pour des raisons de nik, et si le compte est pas dans mon logiciel de mail je vais absolument oublier son existence dans le néant et ne pas penser à aller le consulter
Donc : est‐ce qu’il y a une solution pour qu’il continue de fonctionner avec Thunderbird (ou est‐ce que en fait je m’en fais pour rien et ça va continuer à fonctionner très bien ?) ; si non est‐ce que vous avez des recommendations de logiciel de mail qui fonctionnera avec un compte Outlook ?
Edit : On me dit que en fait c’est bon ça va continuer à marcher tout bien et j’ai pas à m’en faire, c’est parfait, merci Masto pour ton efficacité 😁
Du coup s’il y a des gens qui sont aussi dans ce cas, quelqu’un a eu la gentillesse d’expliquer en détail la manipulation à faire dans les réponses, et je vous remets le lien ici directement si jamais : mastodon.social/@AkkaLyo/11314…
I would use #Outlook only in a business context. Then it's corporate data, and the company can decide to share it with #Microsoft or not. Having 813 "partners" which use your private data while you use Outlook for your private emails, sounds like a #privacy nightmare.
If you use Thunderbird as a client for Microsoft-owned accounts and have sign-in issues, especially recently, be sure to check our newly updated KB article on the topic. support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/m…
We'll be keeping a close eye on these issues, and thanks to everyone who has both let us know about their problems and jumped in to help others. 😊 💙
Changes to OAuth authentication for Microsoft 365 (formerly Office 365; often abbreviated as “o365”) business and academic hosted email accounts and services.
Danke, aber: Nein, danke. Erzähle einem ein Geheimnis und es ist keins mehr. Erzähle 772 ein Geheimnis und du wirst Dinge über dich hören, die du lieber als Geheimnis bewahrt haben wolltest. #outlook
Wer nicht möchte, dass seine E-Mail-Zugangsdaten inklusive E-Mails an Microsoft abfließen, sollte ein alternatives E-Mail-Programm verwenden. Sofern "Neues Outlook" bereits im Einsatz ist, sollte das Konto gelöscht und anschließend die Zugangsdaten geändert werden. Eine mögliche Alternative: Thunderbird. 👇
‼️ Vorsicht: Das neue #Outlook sendet Passwörter, Mails und andere Daten an Microsoft-Server.
Wir raten allen Privat- und Geschäftskunden dringend zu Alternativen wie Thunderbird oder unseren @mailbox_org Webmailer.
👉 Für Geschäftskunden kann die derartige (wenn auch ungewollte) Speicherung personenbezogener Daten übrigens ein bußgeldbelegter DSGVO-Verstoß darstellen.
Shocking but not surprising: New #Microsoft #Outlook is phishing **your mail account credentials** without telling you, all it takes is try it out once. So, don't. As always, better go with FOSS: @thunderbird
Usually phishing comes from shady people that need to jump through some hoops to try and get you. #Microsoft just thinks they can rob you in broad daylight.. crazy.
The "New Outlook" demands that when adding your #Gmail account, you also give Microsoft a copy of all your Gmail email, contacts, and calendar data.
The "Learn More" link confirms:
"Syncing your account to the Microsoft Cloud means that a copy of your email, calendar, and contacts will be synchronized between your email provider and Microsoft data centers."
Prior to #GoDaddy killing my #POP #Email client access on June 2 as part of #Microsoft's mandate to force users onto its #Exchange protocol, I switched from #Outlook 2016 to #Thunderbird 114 Beta (which still connects w/ #POP3 + #OAuth2 - unsure if it's a glitch, but it works)
At work, we recently migrated to MS 365 for part of our email management and I discovered a tiny useful piece of software that simplifies for me the OAUTH2 based idiosyncratic system of Outlook and its friends.
A proxy now allows me to still use mutt, fetchmail, msmtp and exim to read and write emails.
An IMAP/POP/SMTP proxy that transparently adds OAuth 2.0 authentication for email clients that don't support this method. - GitHub - simonrob/email-oauth2-proxy: An IMAP/POP/SMTP proxy that tra...
@thunderbird, I'm enjoying the updated Thunderbird 112 Beta UI, but I was wondering if you could give us the option to disable the tab area and/or the new top menubar depending on how we configure our UI. If I choose to use the left-most vertical menubar, the other areas seem redundant and take up space. Otherwise, I like the new direction! 👍
Bisher: Bei der Nutzung der mobilen Outlook App (iOS, Android) speichert Microsoft die Zugangsdaten zu dem E-Mail-Konto (einschließlich des Passworts) auf eigenen Servern, verarbeitet alle ein- und ausgehenden E-Mails auf eigenen Servern und hat damit vollen Einblick sowohl in Inhalts- als auch in alle Metadaten.
Neu: Jetzt exklusiv auch für Mac-Rechner verfügbar! 😵
Die Mobil-App von Outlook leitet IMAP-Abfragen schon seit Langem über Microsofts Azure-Cloud um. Nach einem Update passiert das nun auch bei Office auf Mac.
Unfortunately the company I work for chose to migrate EVERYTHING they possibly could to Microsoft services - including the previously self-hosted email servers.
I find it extremely irritating that link targets in emails I receive at work are all replaced by links to #Outlook.com, allowing MS to monitor any interaction and add its own trackers, so they can even see whether a link has been followed by people I forward a mail to 🤯
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PSA: Today Thunderbird 102.7.0 releases with a crucial change to how we handle #OAuth2 authorization with #Microsoft accounts. This may involve extra work for users currently using Microsoft-hosted accounts through their employer or educational institution.
In Thunderbird 102.7.0, there are changes to the way we handle OAuth2 authorization with Microsoft accounts. This may involve some extra work for users currently using Microsoft-hosted accounts through their employer or educational institution.
Ich möchte kurz auf eine Analyse des LfDI Baden-Württembergs hinweisen.
"Bei der Nutzung der mobilen Outlook App (iOS, Android) speichert Microsoft die Zugangsdaten zu dem E-Mail-Konto (einschließlich des Passworts) auf eigenen Servern, verarbeitet alle ein- und ausgehenden E-Mails auf eigenen Servern und hat damit vollen Einblick sowohl in Inhalts- als auch in alle Metadaten." 👇
Automatisierte Scans: Microsoft sperrt Kunden unangekündigt für immer aus
Dass Anbieter wie Google oder Microsoft automatisiert nach strafbaren Inhalten suchen, weiß nicht jeder. Gerät man ins Visier, sind Konto und Inhalte verloren.
